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Cybermacro Chat With Alex Jack (Genetically Altered Foods) 09/26/99
Florence: Hi everybpdy Annie: Hi all Stephanie: Glad to meet you Alex, thanks for the pictire of you and... Michael B: Alex...what steps can be taken in such a short period of time? Michael B: Hi Gary Stephanie: Hi Annie and Florence and Gary Annie: How are you, Stephanie? Michael B: Hi Annie Annie: thought you were going to the lake Alex Jack:The first step is simply becoming aware of the issue. Most people have no idea how widespread this is. Annie: Hi Michael Michael B: ...and even if they do..they seem to not care (americans anyway) Florence: Hi White WolffSpirit Alex Jack:They care when they know, but most do not know. Polls show the vast majority are not aware that GA foods are on the market. Annie: Hello White, Bill and bob Bill: hello all Michael B: Hey Bill WhiteWolffSpirit: Hi Florence bob hague: hello all Annie: Hello Scott : Hello Scott Stephanie: What worries me is they don't see the difference between genetic alteration and Mendell's Hybrids. Mendell simply cross polinated , he did nothing to alter the genetics Bill: welcome Scott Michael B: There's been issues here locally..w/ the destruction of GE corn planted by UC Berkeley Scott Waterhouse: Hello Bill Bill: Scott, thanks for the Welles thing...it's interesting in context Scott Waterhouse: How so? Alex Jack:Crop destruction is beginning to spread. Crops have been destroyed in New England, the Midwest, and the West Coast. Scott Waterhouse: Why destroyed? Stephanie: Hi Scott W, bob , Bill White WolfSpirit Alex Jack:Because they were genetically modified. Bill: looking at the time period and their views on living longer....for example...I only have read the first chapter Scott Waterhouse: For what specific reason and authorized by whom [destroyed] Michael B: many GE supporters claim biotech will feed the third world...I think it's about MONEY Annie: How do we know that organic produce is not GE? Scott Waterhouse: both ideas are not mutually exclusive Mike Annie: Hi Kim Stephanie: Hi Kim Florence: Hre in Switzerland GA food are forbidden por the present time Kim: Hi everyone! Alex Jack:The threat to organic food is very real and organic farmers around the country are reporting contamination. Bill: So, Alex, I think it has already gone too far...let's assume that that's the case...what is the solution? Scott Waterhouse: contamination of what? Stephanie: Hi Kaare Michael B: cross-pollination makes us all guinea-pigs Annie: Hi Kaare Bill: morning Kaare... Kathy: Hello everyone Michael B: Hi Kaare Annie: welcome, Kathy Scott Waterhouse: things "cross pollinate in nature Kim: Organic corn crops showing up with GE genes and such. Alex Jack:There has been a big shift this summer and agricultural biotechnology is in retreat. Bill: Alex, in other words, we will continue no matter what... Stephanie: And do we know that the genuine plant accepts pollin from the geneticall altered seed? Annie: Hello Eliz Elizabeth: hey everybody Kathy: Hi Eliz Stephanie: Hello Elizabeth : Hi Elizabeth Florence: Hi Elisabeth Elizabeth: hi Kathy and Annie and Stephanie and Gary Elizabeth: and Florence Elizabeth: :) Elizabeth: hey Scott! Michael B: yes it does stephanie...as proven by the deaths of those butterflies (feeding on milkwd)eed Bill: Alex, but I don't see the biomanipulation thing stopping at all...it will eventually proliferate in most every sense Scott Waterhouse: Hi Elizabeth Alex Jack:Over the last few days there have been reports that the U.S. government is about to announce a new labeling policy. But then other spokesmen denied it. Annie: So, as usual we don't get the whole truth Scott Waterhouse: they don't label irradiated food....personally I am MUCH more concerned about that Stephanie: When someone as big as Monzanto has bought out many of the large seed companies, ... it doesn't look good Alex Jack:Right now, economics are killing the GA industry. The investment community is turning against it. It's simply bad business. Bill: Alex, what do yhou think the long term effects of GE food are going to be? Scott Waterhouse: not with the special soybean, Alex Kaare: Well. That is good news - proably means the GA industry will ask for subsidies Alex Jack:Dutsche Bank, the world's biggest, for example, put out a major report saying the industry is dead on arrival. Michael B: Its another corporate grab...there's big $$$ to be made Stephanie: Yes, Kaare, that sounds right on. Bill: Yea, but the farmers are wanting it because it makes farming easier and more productive... Scott Waterhouse: Where is the money, Mike? Bill: and what does McDonalds and others care...they're pushing crap anyway : But then again for non GE crops, farmers can get more money for their crops Stephanie: I hope that's true, Alex... and not just to lull us back to slumber. Michael B: in those 3rd world countries Scott Alex Jack:I think we will win on the food labeling and the public won't buy GA foods. But the next big wave of GA products is for medicine and that won't be as easy to convince the public to resist. Scott Waterhouse: explain the increased profits, Mike? Bill: Alex, the public is already buying GE foods... Bill: and living somewhat GE lives... Alex Jack:The public is buying but is not aware. If labelled, the market for GA foods would dry up, as they have for irradiated foods. Michael B: this technology is controlled by US Corporations Scott Scott Waterhouse: they are not labelling irradiated foods Stephanie: Joke on me, Ed ordered me a whopper the other day with out thinking and paid for it. I asked do you have anything wihtout meat? They said, we can give you a veggie burger. I was delighted, fine I said,. Joke on me. A veggie whopper, is a whopper bun with mustard , lettuce tomatoe and onion (all raw of course) Bill: sugar, pesticides, and all that crap never dried up... Alex Jack:Irradiated foods are by law labelled. Scott Waterhouse: you are not explaining the mechanism of increased profits, Mike Kaare: The Us public is miserably ill-informed compared to Europe about GA foods Michael B: what do myou think their motives are....helping humanity? Kathy: There has been a great public outcry in Britain against gm crops and yet even people I know eat pot noodles as virtually their staple diet even though they shout about gm crops. Another case of the public | ||||||||||||||||||