[Wed Feb 15 17:00:58 PST 2006] jessica_porter

shall we start?

[Wed Feb 15 17:03:17 PST 2006] jessica_porter

Macrobiotics helps you to live your life...

[Wed Feb 15 17:03:20 PST 2006] jessica_porter

a big life.

[Wed Feb 15 17:03:39 PST 2006] jessica_porter

What does big life mean to you? How do we make our lives "bigger"? What is it to live a big life?

[Wed Feb 15 17:04:03 PST 2006] jessica_porter

What are the techniques we can use to squeeze this life like a lemon and get all the great juice out of it?

[Wed Feb 15 17:04:19 PST 2006] jessica_porter

I know that's vague, but I"m interested in hearing people's questions

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[Wed Feb 15 17:04:25 PST 2006] jessica_porter

and opinions on living life fully.

[Wed Feb 15 17:04:30 PST 2006] sahaja

looking at more than just food as how it influences our lives - getting bigger in our awareness of what affects us and what do we affect

[Wed Feb 15 17:04:34 PST 2006] jessica_porter

How does mb help and hinder that?

[Wed Feb 15 17:04:40 PST 2006] jessica_porter

yes.

[Wed Feb 15 17:04:52 PST 2006] jessica_porter

I can get obsessed with food. I don't like that.

[Wed Feb 15 17:05:00 PST 2006] sahaja

me too - macroneurotic

[Wed Feb 15 17:05:03 PST 2006] jessica_porter

Need to have the food support me in my dreams

[Wed Feb 15 17:05:10 PST 2006] sahaja

amen

[Wed Feb 15 17:05:16 PST 2006] jessica_porter

But ask whatever you like. That's just where I'm coming from

[Wed Feb 15 17:07:16 PST 2006] gadgee(Q)

Jessica, I presume you are out on the road some of the time. Is interest in mb waxing or waning would you say?

[Wed Feb 15 17:07:16 PST 2006] jessica_porter(A)

I'd say it waxing. I don't know why I say that, just my feeling

[Wed Feb 15 17:08:20 PST 2006] RebeccaG

Working at the health food store- I'd say yes, a bit of a waxing interest!

[Wed Feb 15 17:08:39 PST 2006] klara(Q)

what about guilt, which of course sucks? when you know you're not supposed to eat....for big life?

[Wed Feb 15 17:08:39 PST 2006] jessica_porter(A)

I struggle with guilt myself. Too much macro education can get in the way of just living. But I try to put my energy in my life and say "what am I doing in this moment to add to my existence, to this moment, to the people I love" and that tends to make the guilt go away. Life is short.

[Wed Feb 15 17:09:46 PST 2006] RebeccaG

I want to interest people in the idea of mb as more than the food- what you just said is great- to love the path

[Wed Feb 15 17:10:14 PST 2006] LavenderJane(Q)

What is the best way to begin a macrobiotic lifestyle when you are used to eating crap all the time?

[Wed Feb 15 17:10:14 PST 2006] jessica_porter(A)

I just did it a meal at a time. Sometimes I think it's difficult, literally difficult, to tolerate the clean consciousness that MB eating brings. It can feel too clear, almost boring, and like "what do I do with this clear mind?". I know how to be neurotic and afriad, what do I do with clarity? So take it easy and do things like yoga, work on self, service, to learn how to handle the clarity.

[Wed Feb 15 17:11:18 PST 2006] betty_tbc_009

Yeah...I find that I have been wandering a little(or a lot) from that...and I dont have any clarity...this maybe why I cannot think to do my school work

[Wed Feb 15 17:11:20 PST 2006] sahaja

For sure, one guy told me he had to drop it because he felt too naked in this world - too fine, like china that was about to break

[Wed Feb 15 17:11:30 PST 2006] newmacrochica

What is your favorite on the go snack??

[Wed Feb 15 17:11:36 PST 2006] gadgee(Q)

Hasn't the cliche of "big life" really had it's day?

[Wed Feb 15 17:11:36 PST 2006] jessica_porter(A)

I dunno. I feel like Big Life makes sense to me. Because the important things in life--people, work, travel, education, Nature, etc. just get bigger and deeper. So it has always worked for me. What do you mean by it as a cliche?

[Wed Feb 15 17:11:45 PST 2006] jessica_porter

Snack: mmmm...

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[Wed Feb 15 17:12:05 PST 2006] jessica_porter

I like crispy rice treats. a lot. I make them all the time. Even my dad eats them.

[Wed Feb 15 17:12:11 PST 2006] newmacrochica

I'm just learning to plan my food and I am used to snack.....

[Wed Feb 15 17:12:18 PST 2006] newmacrochica

those sounded addicting!

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[Wed Feb 15 17:12:43 PST 2006] newmacrochica

I just got some brown rice tamari seaweed crackers...is that ok??

[Wed Feb 15 17:12:50 PST 2006] betty_tbc_009(Q)

What reccomendations or ideas do you have for a young person who at the moment is pursueing a sedentary life of academics?

[Wed Feb 15 17:12:50 PST 2006] jessica_porter(A)

That's a great question. Do you have the ability/environment for cooking?

[Wed Feb 15 17:13:09 PST 2006] newmacrochica

yah, i do.....just intimidating with all the new foods

[Wed Feb 15 17:13:24 PST 2006] newmacrochica

finding them all

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[Wed Feb 15 17:13:29 PST 2006] jessica_porter

crackers are fine, but they can be salty and very yang. If you find you're feeling thirsty, irritable or have stiffness in the neck/shoulders, hold off on the crackers and see what changes.

[Wed Feb 15 17:13:29 PST 2006] betty_tbc_009

yes and no...

[Wed Feb 15 17:13:50 PST 2006] betty_tbc_009

mainly no... but i should be able to make that a yes...bcuz it is so important in life

[Wed Feb 15 17:13:56 PST 2006] newmacrochica

k, the ingredients say sea salt i think

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betty_tbc_009 To[Private] howard

hello?

[Wed Feb 15 17:14:11 PST 2006] jessica_porter

re: cooking, start slow. Try whole grains and work from there. You are young and have your whole life to explore. If you get hooked on whole grains, they will lead you.

[Wed Feb 15 17:14:30 PST 2006] newmacrochica

k, great :-)

[Wed Feb 15 17:14:41 PST 2006] jessica_porter

sea salt, but also that they are baked flour. Baked flour causes dryness, stiffness, irritates the liver.

[Wed Feb 15 17:15:01 PST 2006] betty_tbc_009

yeah...brown rice is the best... I've been away from it from far too long. must endeavor to more.

[Wed Feb 15 17:15:04 PST 2006] newmacrochica

they are, even if it doesn't say flour on the ingredients??

[Wed Feb 15 17:15:13 PST 2006] jessica_porter

don't want to get into the habit of baked flour all the time. Has a big impact.

[Wed Feb 15 17:15:40 PST 2006] jessica_porter

potato starch, probably. But definitely baked. Any baked carbohydrate will cause that stiffness and hardness

[Wed Feb 15 17:15:52 PST 2006] newmacrochica

ahhhhh, ok

[Wed Feb 15 17:16:16 PST 2006] jessica_porter

if the thing you're putting in your mouth is hard like a rock, you will become hard like a rock. Leeches your fluids. Makes the body work too hard.

[Wed Feb 15 17:16:29 PST 2006] howard

i would say easy on pressure cooking anything

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klara To[Private] newmacrochica

Hi newmacrochica. Do you see this?

[Wed Feb 15 17:16:49 PST 2006] jessica_porter

Where's Howard writing from?

[Wed Feb 15 17:18:15 PST 2006]

newmacrochica To[Private] klara

see what?

[Wed Feb 15 17:18:27 PST 2006] jessica_porter

back to questions. They're good.

[Wed Feb 15 17:18:30 PST 2006] howard

hello from us all

[Wed Feb 15 17:18:38 PST 2006] jessica_porter

and howard's right...

[Wed Feb 15 17:18:39 PST 2006] betty_tbc_009

yeah ...grace is with dad

[Wed Feb 15 17:18:48 PST 2006] newmacrochica

I loved the sense of humor in ur book, it was so easy to relate to!

[Wed Feb 15 17:18:53 PST 2006] jessica_porter

Too much pressure-cooking can be very tightening

[Wed Feb 15 17:19:02 PST 2006] howard

long term

[Wed Feb 15 17:19:02 PST 2006] jessica_porter

thank you. I tried to make it funny.

[Wed Feb 15 17:19:03 PST 2006] Gary

Small reminder again, please post questions to Jessica via the ask window

[Wed Feb 15 17:19:12 PST 2006] howard

get way too yang

[Wed Feb 15 17:19:16 PST 2006] LavenderJane

Yeah, the humor kept me reading where in other books I've not been able to finish.

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[Wed Feb 15 17:19:25 PST 2006] betty_tbc_009

sooo...boil your rice too... right?

[Wed Feb 15 17:19:30 PST 2006] howard

yes

[Wed Feb 15 17:19:34 PST 2006] howard

soft

[Wed Feb 15 17:19:47 PST 2006] jessica_porter

Yeah. You will eventually listen to your intuition on that.

[Wed Feb 15 17:19:52 PST 2006] newmacrochica

My friends always think i'm nutty for following health so closely, made me think theres more of me

[Wed Feb 15 17:20:23 PST 2006] jessica_porter

There are more of you. We are your crazy health club!!

[Wed Feb 15 17:20:39 PST 2006] jessica_porter

I don't even eat that much rice.

[Wed Feb 15 17:20:40 PST 2006] newmacrochica

yeah!

[Wed Feb 15 17:20:49 PST 2006] jessica_porter

Doesn't work for me that well. I prefer barley.

[Wed Feb 15 17:21:02 PST 2006] jessica_porter

Rice makes me sort of closed off from the world and I don't like that.

[Wed Feb 15 17:21:08 PST 2006] jessica_porter

Barley brings me out/forward

[Wed Feb 15 17:21:27 PST 2006] newmacrochica

Never tried Barley

[Wed Feb 15 17:21:32 PST 2006] todd_r

what about marijuana

[Wed Feb 15 17:21:45 PST 2006] betty_tbc_009

I miss my rice though... I've been eating a lot of pasta...The most rice I got was summer conference last year.

[Wed Feb 15 17:22:10 PST 2006] jessica_porter

Marijuana is extremely yinnizing. Especially for people who don't eat much animal food

[Wed Feb 15 17:22:30 PST 2006] jessica_porter

Can make one's life tooooooo relaxed. Toooooo spaced out.

[Wed Feb 15 17:22:47 PST 2006] howard

way too spaced out

[Wed Feb 15 17:22:52 PST 2006] betty_tbc_009

lol yeah duuude. I seeee it aat schoool.

[Wed Feb 15 17:22:59 PST 2006] betty_tbc_009

all the time

[Wed Feb 15 17:23:22 PST 2006] jessica_porter

But life is a stoned thing. Need to find the connection with the subconscious (that's what getting high is) in daily life. MB eating can do that. Make you very sensitive to life's beautiful stuf. That and meditation. I've smoked my share of pot, and thought a lot about it.

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[Wed Feb 15 17:25:30 PST 2006] gadgee(Q)

Jessica, you talk in depth in your book about overcoming you problematic food issues with macrobiotics. Have you seen mb's be of help to others with similar concerns?

[Wed Feb 15 17:25:30 PST 2006] jessica_porter(A)

That's good question. I have gone outside of MB to get help with food issues. Support groups. Meditation. I think some people in MB are really normal around food and others are really obsessed. I needed out of the MB community to heal that stuff because it was just all about food. Life's more than that.

[Wed Feb 15 17:26:07 PST 2006] LavenderJane(Q)

Are rice fasts a good idea if your new to macrobiotics?

[Wed Feb 15 17:26:07 PST 2006] jessica_porter(A)

In general, it won't hurt. I've never been able to do 10 days on rice, but have done ten days on barley. See how it feels. Just don't do more than 10 days.

[Wed Feb 15 17:26:52 PST 2006] kogen(Q)

great life... helping and supporting others in their pursuit of freedom and enlightenment

[Wed Feb 15 17:26:52 PST 2006] jessica_porter(A)

Yes. Helping others find freedom and play, which exist within struggle and work. Paradoxically.

[Wed Feb 15 17:27:01 PST 2006] howard

be right back

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[Wed Feb 15 17:28:49 PST 2006] klara(Q)

How much is too much pressure cooking?

[Wed Feb 15 17:28:49 PST 2006] jessica_porter(A)

That's different for everyone. Most people when they're first beginning can handle pressure cooking like, 3 times a week. But later, you need to ask your body/intuition what it wants. It will tell you, because pressure cooking creates...pressure. It makes you feel intense, energized, forward-moving. Know that, so that when you boil, you may feel a difference. It's about what you want for your life and who you want to be. I am a nicer person when I boil things and only need pressure cooking when I really need to get soemthing (usually physical) done.

[Wed Feb 15 17:29:17 PST 2006] RebeccaG(Q)

whole grain barley cooked like rice?

[Wed Feb 15 17:29:17 PST 2006] jessica_porter(A)

Yeah, although it doesn't take as good, I like its effect. Just soaked and boiled.

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[Wed Feb 15 17:29:42 PST 2006] leigh(Q)

how long have you been going with the barley

[Wed Feb 15 17:29:42 PST 2006] jessica_porter(A)

For a number of years now. Started eating much less rice in 1998.

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[Wed Feb 15 17:30:25 PST 2006] sahaja

how about millet for you?

[Wed Feb 15 17:31:00 PST 2006] LavenderJane(Q)

How well does a macrobiotic diet and major athletic training go together? For example, I am training for a marathon. Will I get enough of what I need if I go macrobiotic?

[Wed Feb 15 17:31:00 PST 2006] jessica_porter(A)

You might be asking the wrong person. I just make it to the gym for 20 minutes three times a week. Not a huge athlete. There are some athletes who are macro, and I would assume they take in more protein and intense cooking styles like pressure cooking/ deep frying/ and probably some fish. Also a little more salt. But don't quote me on that.

[Wed Feb 15 17:31:11 PST 2006] jessica_porter

Love millet, in moderation

[Wed Feb 15 17:31:27 PST 2006] sahaja

why is that...the moderation bit

[Wed Feb 15 17:31:27 PST 2006] newmacrochica

Do you recommend any other ways to seek out MB besides ur book for a newbie?

[Wed Feb 15 17:31:49 PST 2006] RebeccaG

- I've been enjoying 20% barley or millet or other grain with rice- what a lot of choices we have

[Wed Feb 15 17:31:57 PST 2006] gadgee(Q)

Well we hear all the time "big life" but with so many cancers and other problems within the community isn't it becoming clear that the "big" is not a word that goes with mb's?

[Wed Feb 15 17:31:57 PST 2006] jessica_porter(A)

I dunno. I'm not sure that "big" excludes disease. I'm seeing that disease may be part of the journey for many people. Not to be judged, I guess.

[Wed Feb 15 17:33:07 PST 2006] jessica_porter

In moderation becuase every food has a particular energy and you don't want just one energy. Change is really important to keep your body/life flexible. But experiment and find out. Try rice for a week. Then millet. SEe if you feel a difference. I COULD BE WRONG!!

[Wed Feb 15 17:33:08 PST 2006] sahaja

How can anything be excluded from the big picture - it all happens therefore it is all inclusive

[Wed Feb 15 17:33:31 PST 2006] sahaja

not the millet, the diseases...lol

[Wed Feb 15 17:33:38 PST 2006] klara(Q)

Yin and Yang, what about when you feel you're not adding, but subtracting????

[Wed Feb 15 17:33:38 PST 2006] jessica_porter(A)

not sure I understand the question. Can you elaborate?

[Wed Feb 15 17:36:08 PST 2006] CPB(Q)

I am trying to help a friend who has colitis, a very bad case of it and the Doctors are talking about taking out his large intestine. He has asked his doctor if it would be ok to try eating changes so we went shopping on Saturday. He feels overwhelmed over everything, even something as simple as eating brown rice. Any advice as to how to start him in the right direction without overwhelming him?

[Wed Feb 15 17:36:08 PST 2006] jessica_porter(A)

Unfortunately (or fortunately) people with major health conditions should probably change more quickly than slowly. I would just let him know that the first week or so may be very uncomfortable. Support him in that. Maybe cook for/with him. Let him get to the point where he's feeling good. That's when it gets addictive. I dunno. Phone calls to hear him yell/complain/cry as he discharges? Unconditional love, if you can give it. And food support. It's not easy.

[Wed Feb 15 17:36:43 PST 2006] AnnaR(Q)

What do you get your teeth filled with?

[Wed Feb 15 17:36:43 PST 2006] jessica_porter(A)

I haven't had them filled for a long time, but they put some clear stuff in last time. All mercury out. Not sure if the clear stuff is any better, but I hope so!!!

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[Wed Feb 15 17:37:35 PST 2006] sahaja

did my question go through earlier?

[Wed Feb 15 17:37:47 PST 2006] betty_tbc_009(Q)

What are good grain/veggies/cooking styles for improving/helping thinking and concentration?

[Wed Feb 15 17:37:47 PST 2006] jessica_porter(A)

I find that sea vegetables are really good for concentration/memory. Also avoiding caffeine, sugar and dairy. Also chewing helps a lot!

[Wed Feb 15 17:38:13 PST 2006] jessica_porter

Not sure, sahaha, please re-send

[Wed Feb 15 17:38:40 PST 2006] betty_tbc_009

uh oh...(caffeine)

[Wed Feb 15 17:39:02 PST 2006] jessica_porter

caffeine is a fun drug, but I find that it has a HUGE impact on me.

[Wed Feb 15 17:39:10 PST 2006] jessica_porter

Spiritually more than anytyhing.

[Wed Feb 15 17:39:19 PST 2006] sahaja

regarding people with serious conditions - how they deal with the anti-social side, so difficult in supporting/teaching/counselling them as it looks like anything but a big picture - looks narrow and with serious health can take so long for results - feel sometimes at a loss to keep inspiring them -

[Wed Feb 15 17:39:21 PST 2006] jessica_porter

Gets in the way of feeling connected to the Infinite Universe

[Wed Feb 15 17:39:37 PST 2006] jessica_porter

Yeah, not easy....

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[Wed Feb 15 17:40:03 PST 2006] betty_tbc_009

really?... I've been trying some caffiene and i dont seem to feel any effects till after the second cup...which i'm not allowed to have anyway :P

[Wed Feb 15 17:40:05 PST 2006] jessica_porter

I think if they have a spiritual side, a connection to the vibrational world, that it can be easier. Has that conversation happened?

[Wed Feb 15 17:40:26 PST 2006] jessica_porter

You may not knkow what caffeine is doing until it's gone

[Wed Feb 15 17:40:40 PST 2006] sahaja

yes, that is true - most people i work with give up at some point and go for naturopaths or supplements or something so they can have their treats

[Wed Feb 15 17:40:47 PST 2006] betty_tbc_009

very true

[Wed Feb 15 17:41:12 PST 2006] jessica_porter

Yes. Not everyone can heal with MB.

[Wed Feb 15 17:41:22 PST 2006] jessica_porter

It's very challenging.

[Wed Feb 15 17:41:26 PST 2006] jessica_porter

Not sure if I could do it.

[Wed Feb 15 17:41:34 PST 2006] sahaja

in cases like that do you feel that anything is better than nothing?

[Wed Feb 15 17:41:51 PST 2006] jessica_porter

Yes, but loving the person and supporting their choices is best.

[Wed Feb 15 17:42:02 PST 2006] jessica_porter

If they're meant to use food, be the example of that, not the preacher

[Wed Feb 15 17:42:29 PST 2006] sahaja

because i went through my own healing thing, i know how hard it is and inspiring now others to do the same i often feel like it's not for many people - not that strictly

[Wed Feb 15 17:42:34 PST 2006] todd_r(Q)

Jessica, did you ever see Bo-In Lee for a consultation? (He is that Korean contemporary of Michio in Bosotn)

[Wed Feb 15 17:42:34 PST 2006] jessica_porter(A)

No, I've never met him.

[Wed Feb 15 17:43:13 PST 2006] jessica_porter

It's a self-selecting thing. We may never know why we're into MB and others aren't. Maybe we're the crazy ones

[Wed Feb 15 17:43:15 PST 2006] jessica_porter

!!!

[Wed Feb 15 17:43:19 PST 2006] jessica_porter

But lucky too

[Wed Feb 15 17:43:25 PST 2006] todd_r

I hear he has fantastic results with infertility and cancer

[Wed Feb 15 17:43:29 PST 2006] sahaja

i have felt exactly the same - crazy and lucky

[Wed Feb 15 17:43:52 PST 2006] betty_tbc_009

we are all "crazy" to some degree. and that is why we are here

[Wed Feb 15 17:43:53 PST 2006] jessica_porter

Me too. Sometimes obsessed, sometimes soooooo grateful

[Wed Feb 15 17:44:32 PST 2006] sahaja

such a path off the mainstream - but then i suppose meditation/spiritual journey is also a small minority even though that is really why we are here...don't ya think?

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[Wed Feb 15 17:44:44 PST 2006] TM(Q)

has anyone in here have ulcerative colitis? i have that and i've just started with MB

[Wed Feb 15 17:44:44 PST 2006] jessica_porter(A)

I don't have it, but know people who have, who have used MB to heal it. With great success. You should call Mindy Kizer in Omaha, Nebraska.

[Wed Feb 15 17:45:22 PST 2006] betty_tbc_009(Q)

But in theory it is possible to heal almost anything with MB?

[Wed Feb 15 17:45:22 PST 2006] jessica_porter(A)

I think in theory, it is. Although some conditions are much harder than others.

[Wed Feb 15 17:45:38 PST 2006] sahaja

and once again, it is more than just the food/diet part

[Wed Feb 15 17:45:40 PST 2006] TM

well, ive been on MB for about 2 weeks now and all of a sudden my symtoms have gotten very servere, has anyone experienced such things?

[Wed Feb 15 17:46:02 PST 2006] todd_r

Yes

[Wed Feb 15 17:46:10 PST 2006] jessica_porter

Have you seen a counselor, or are you doing it yourself?

[Wed Feb 15 17:46:10 PST 2006] marica

that happends when you switch to a new diet

[Wed Feb 15 17:46:23 PST 2006] TM

ive went to a counselor and she's monitoring me, but this is really werid, ive been in a lot of pain

[Wed Feb 15 17:46:37 PST 2006] TM

do you know how long it lasts?

[Wed Feb 15 17:46:46 PST 2006] marica

some people loose a lot of weight.. it's their process of cleansing

[Wed Feb 15 17:46:51 PST 2006] jessica_porter

I would talk to your counselor about that. May be normal, may be a problem. She should be able to help you.

[Wed Feb 15 17:47:11 PST 2006] jessica_porter

Hard to tell from a chat room. Sorry.

[Wed Feb 15 17:47:12 PST 2006] TM

yea ive lost 10lbs already, but i was only 110 so i feel so weak

[Wed Feb 15 17:47:28 PST 2006] jessica_porter

But Marica is right. It can be dramatic/extreme at first. Soemtimes scary.

[Wed Feb 15 17:47:37 PST 2006] TM

really? thats interesting

[Wed Feb 15 17:47:51 PST 2006] marica

everybody get different symptoms..

[Wed Feb 15 17:48:03 PST 2006] jessica_porter

absolutely. Your body may be freaking out from the big changes. But definitely check in with the counselor.

[Wed Feb 15 17:48:27 PST 2006] TM

haha great, you're right this is very difficult....especially when i'm always sooooo hungry

[Wed Feb 15 17:48:39 PST 2006] TM

thank you so much

[Wed Feb 15 17:49:13 PST 2006] marica

In that case, Jessica, do you recomend more smaller meals during a day?

[Wed Feb 15 17:49:31 PST 2006] leigh(Q)

how do you see people into macrobiotics seeming to need more connection with other macrobioitic people, how to deal with that if not in an area with like minded people

[Wed Feb 15 17:49:31 PST 2006] jessica_porter(A)

I guess chats are helpful. Also books. Maybe work on a friend and start cooking with one another. I want to make a series of DVDs that people can use in th eir communities. Keep on truckin'

[Wed Feb 15 17:50:18 PST 2006] jessica_porter

Hunger is normal. Have snacks available or eat more, smaller meals. Whatever works to keep you MB in the beginning is okay, I think. Good quality snacks, though.

[Wed Feb 15 17:50:23 PST 2006] marica

great idea, jessica. Nobody has DVDs out.

[Wed Feb 15 17:50:24 PST 2006] TM

i think connecting with other people has probably been the hardest part when the rest of the world looks at you like your crazy

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[Wed Feb 15 17:50:55 PST 2006] betty_tbc_009

I'm a teen in a rural indiana town...boy, do I know that!

[Wed Feb 15 17:51:23 PST 2006] TM

yea im only 22 and i live in NYC!!! haha

[Wed Feb 15 17:51:24 PST 2006] marica

:)

[Wed Feb 15 17:51:33 PST 2006] betty_tbc_009

its pork and bacon and football down here... and everyone is obese...

[Wed Feb 15 17:51:42 PST 2006] RebeccaG

I'd suggest saving for a summer conference - they can be awesome

[Wed Feb 15 17:52:01 PST 2006] chick

Don't worry asbout what other people think. They're all popping pills the doctor gave them.

[Wed Feb 15 17:52:12 PST 2006] marica

others doesn't matter... don't worry about them.. think about your health

[Wed Feb 15 17:52:15 PST 2006] betty_tbc_009

YUP! I'm almost a lifer! hehee been to...almost every one that has happened in my life time. proud volunteer.

[Wed Feb 15 17:52:19 PST 2006] newmacrochica(Q)

I just started MB and am curious to know how I'm going to get enough protein

[Wed Feb 15 17:52:19 PST 2006] jessica_porter(A)

They say in MB that it's actually hard to be protein-deficient. It comes in many foods and we don't need as much as the standard american diet says. But, I would say, eat what you feel like eating (as long as you're healthy) and just learn from it. How do you feel after lots of protein? After a little? It can be heavy and hard to digest. Listen to your body.

[Wed Feb 15 17:52:27 PST 2006] TM

actually im going going away to the kushi institute im really excited

[Wed Feb 15 17:52:42 PST 2006] todd_r

cool!

[Wed Feb 15 17:52:50 PST 2006] todd_r

what are you going to do there?

[Wed Feb 15 17:52:54 PST 2006] betty_tbc_009

I want to go :)!

[Wed Feb 15 17:53:08 PST 2006] RebeccaG

great idea TM!!!

[Wed Feb 15 17:53:09 PST 2006] marica

nice place, but not in winter time ;)

[Wed Feb 15 17:53:09 PST 2006] jessica_porter

summer conference a great idea for the newcomer who has no MB friends yet

[Wed Feb 15 17:53:10 PST 2006] TM

its A Way To Health workshop

[Wed Feb 15 17:53:21 PST 2006] todd_r

I went once for an afternoon -- I thought they looked rather unhealthy!

[Wed Feb 15 17:53:30 PST 2006] TM

haha yea im a little scared of all the snow

[Wed Feb 15 17:53:57 PST 2006] marica

their program will put you on right track.. it is very good for beginners

[Wed Feb 15 17:53:57 PST 2006] RebeccaG

how so Todd?

[Wed Feb 15 17:54:01 PST 2006] todd_r(Q)

what do you think of those japanese electic rice cookers. Are they any good?

[Wed Feb 15 17:54:01 PST 2006] jessica_porter(A)

I think they're cool for convenience, but not great energetically. Use them in a pinch, but don't get addicted. Electricity in food is electricity in your body.

[Wed Feb 15 17:54:13 PST 2006] jessica_porter

Way to Health is great.

[Wed Feb 15 17:54:22 PST 2006] jessica_porter

Snow is beautiful there

[Wed Feb 15 17:54:25 PST 2006] marica

in mb don't recomended?!

[Wed Feb 15 17:54:26 PST 2006] jessica_porter

I lived there for 3 years

[Wed Feb 15 17:54:32 PST 2006] todd_r

the men especially looked very sunken and kind of lifeless

[Wed Feb 15 17:54:41 PST 2006] marica

:D

[Wed Feb 15 17:54:43 PST 2006] jessica_porter

At the K.I.?

[Wed Feb 15 17:54:45 PST 2006] TM

thank you, that makes me feel better

[Wed Feb 15 17:54:53 PST 2006] marica

that Kozinski says too

[Wed Feb 15 17:55:10 PST 2006] todd_r

yes men at the ki

[Wed Feb 15 17:55:10 PST 2006] marica

diet is too narow

[Wed Feb 15 17:55:39 PST 2006] jessica_porter

Keep in mind that the men at the KI (most of them ) don't cook for themselves and have been eating that food (very yang) for many years. The women have been cooking and the men who cook look better. Cooking for self (at least some of the time) is vital.

[Wed Feb 15 17:55:57 PST 2006] jessica_porter

Keeps you in touch with your own needs.

[Wed Feb 15 17:56:05 PST 2006] jessica_porter

Keeps you connected to intution.

[Wed Feb 15 17:56:09 PST 2006] jessica_porter

Helps you to yinnize yourself

[Wed Feb 15 17:56:20 PST 2006] jessica_porter

But too much cooking can make you too yang too.

[Wed Feb 15 17:56:25 PST 2006] jessica_porter

Too much concentration on self.

[Wed Feb 15 17:56:25 PST 2006] TM

how is the food very yang there?

[Wed Feb 15 17:56:34 PST 2006] todd_r

yes how?

[Wed Feb 15 17:56:36 PST 2006] jessica_porter

Too much heat and concentration.

[Wed Feb 15 17:56:55 PST 2006] RebeccaG

John Kozinski and many other mb guys have balanced and look great- sometimes in healing they have to loss a lot of "old" stuff

[Wed Feb 15 17:57:02 PST 2006] todd_r

heat in the chinese medicine sense or as in hot heat?

[Wed Feb 15 17:57:13 PST 2006] LavenderJane

I gotta go but thanks Jessica for the great book and all the helpful info.

[Wed Feb 15 17:57:34 PST 2006] jessica_porter

It follows the standard diet, which is fine for a while. But no one needs the standard diet every day for months or years. You need to find your diet. For your life. That would probably be very different. Maybe more vegetables. Or more sweets. Or less grain. Or less salt. There are lots of factors.

[Wed Feb 15 17:57:40 PST 2006] LavenderJane

Thanks for facilitating Gary

[Wed Feb 15 17:57:50 PST 2006] jessica_porter

You're welcome. thanks for coming

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[Wed Feb 15 17:58:00 PST 2006] Gary

Thanks for being here Jane!

[Wed Feb 15 17:58:07 PST 2006] jessica_porter

Heat as in fire.

[Wed Feb 15 17:58:20 PST 2006] marica

very nice said, jessica. 100% right

[Wed Feb 15 17:58:29 PST 2006] jessica_porter

When you hang out in front of fire for hours every day, it becomes drying and yangizing. Literally.

[Wed Feb 15 17:58:39 PST 2006] jessica_porter

I like to cook every other day

[Wed Feb 15 17:58:45 PST 2006] jessica_porter

That's my rhythm.

[Wed Feb 15 17:59:00 PST 2006] AnnaR

me too

[Wed Feb 15 17:59:02 PST 2006] jessica_porter

Luckily I live in a place that can support that with decent restaurants, health food stores.

[Wed Feb 15 17:59:20 PST 2006] jessica_porter

When I only cook every other day, I really enjoy cooking. Every day, I resent it.

[Wed Feb 15 17:59:43 PST 2006] marica

:) I'm trying to cook rice everyday... i don't like lefovers

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[Wed Feb 15 17:59:53 PST 2006] AnnaR

breakfast is always easy though isn't it?

[Wed Feb 15 18:00:12 PST 2006] sahaja

i also have to go - my course with david briscoe - another chat - thanks very much - i sell your book to everyone here - it's the no. 1 seller and everyone enjoys it!

[Wed Feb 15 18:00:19 PST 2006] jessica_porter

Do you find it easy? That's the question. I just eat oatmeal or leftovers.

[Wed Feb 15 18:00:31 PST 2006] jessica_porter

Thanks so much. Say hello to David for me. take care,

[Wed Feb 15 18:00:34 PST 2006] marica

oats every day ::blush

[Wed Feb 15 18:00:39 PST 2006] marica

it is me!

[Wed Feb 15 18:00:40 PST 2006] sahaja

i will, bye and bye gary

[Wed Feb 15 18:00:43 PST 2006] AnnaR

yes I suppose having 3 kids I have got into a rhythm

[Wed Feb 15 18:00:54 PST 2006] Gary

Bye Sahaja, thanks for coming

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[Wed Feb 15 18:01:00 PST 2006] jessica_porter

Kids will do that. It's a whole different ball game.

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[Wed Feb 15 18:01:11 PST 2006] todd_r

how many do you have J?

[Wed Feb 15 18:01:20 PST 2006] jessica_porter

None.

[Wed Feb 15 18:01:27 PST 2006] jessica_porter

I watch mothers with the utmost respect

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[Wed Feb 15 18:01:44 PST 2006] jessica_porter

Whole differnent life. One of service.

[Wed Feb 15 18:01:44 PST 2006] Gankaku

Hello! I'm so sorry I'm late - I just found out about this chat and flew over here...one hour late but here I am

[Wed Feb 15 18:01:51 PST 2006] AnnaR

I very rarley have oats

[Wed Feb 15 18:02:20 PST 2006] marica

I have them at least 3-4 day in week... other days I skip breakfast :)

[Wed Feb 15 18:02:39 PST 2006] marica

I like oats with lefover rice mmmm

[Wed Feb 15 18:02:48 PST 2006] AnnaR

my kids fave is rice in soup

[Wed Feb 15 18:03:04 PST 2006] AnnaR

and it is a quick option

[Wed Feb 15 18:03:06 PST 2006] jessica_porter

mmmm

[Wed Feb 15 18:03:06 PST 2006] marica

I found difficult to cook rice in the morning. It takes a lot of time

[Wed Feb 15 18:03:29 PST 2006] AnnaR

last night's rice

[Wed Feb 15 18:04:15 PST 2006] klara(Q)

Cooking every other day, then you're eating "left-overs"? And that is also yangizing??no?

[Wed Feb 15 18:04:15 PST 2006] jessica_porter(A)

Great question. yes, but it's a yang I prefer to the other ones.

[Wed Feb 15 18:05:06 PST 2006] RebeccaG

having a couple of days meal plans written up is so helpful- plan LO with some added fresh veggies

[Wed Feb 15 18:05:19 PST 2006] AnnaR

yes

[Wed Feb 15 18:05:33 PST 2006] jessica_porter

Planning is totally essential. Keeps cooking sane.

[Wed Feb 15 18:05:45 PST 2006]

Gary To[Private] jessica_porter

Yes, glad to

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[Wed Feb 15 18:06:34 PST 2006] Gary

Thanks for everyone coming to this evening's chat, and especially to Jessica!

[Wed Feb 15 18:06:49 PST 2006] jessica_porter

Thanks to you all. Keep on keepin' on.

[Wed Feb 15 18:07:00 PST 2006] marica

thank you jessica for your time...

[Wed Feb 15 18:07:02 PST 2006] jessica_porter

Just being MB is doing good work in the world. I believe that.

[Wed Feb 15 18:07:03 PST 2006] betty_tbc_009

yes, thank you! Jessica! Your book is awesome!

[Wed Feb 15 18:07:06 PST 2006] marica

hope you will be back

[Wed Feb 15 18:07:13 PST 2006] jessica_porter

I would love to come back.

Chew well. See ya!!