[Sun Apr 23 10:59:23 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

Hello Everybody

[Sun Apr 23 11:03:02 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

I was first introduced to the acid-alkaline ideas by Herman Aihara

[Sun Apr 23 11:03:24 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

At first I thought, "Oh, this is too scientific for me!"

[Sun Apr 23 11:03:38 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

I never took any chemistry courses.

[Sun Apr 23 11:04:11 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

And it didn't seem so macrobiotic at first because it wasn't using "yin" and "Yang"

[Sun Apr 23 11:04:23 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

But Herman changed all that for me.

[Sun Apr 23 11:04:49 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

And little by little I began to see the practicality  and usefulness of acid-alkaline

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[Sun Apr 23 11:05:24 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

Over the years, it began to make more sense, and I began to use it in my own practice and then in counseling

[Sun Apr 23 11:05:48 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

And it's really very simple as I teach it and use it...

[Sun Apr 23 11:06:00 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

I can explain it briefly if you'd like?

[Sun Apr 23 11:06:15 PDT 2006] klara

Yes, please

[Sun Apr 23 11:06:21 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

OK...

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[Sun Apr 23 11:06:48 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

Just like the body maintains constant states of temperature, glucose, etc..

[Sun Apr 23 11:07:01 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

it must also maintain a constant pH of the blood

[Sun Apr 23 11:07:08 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

pH= acid-alkaline

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[Sun Apr 23 11:07:42 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

Just like we maintain a constant temperature , we maintain , or should maintain, a constant pH of the blood

[Sun Apr 23 11:07:57 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

This means that the human blood will be slightly alkaline, not acid

[Sun Apr 23 11:08:17 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

And the body maintains this alkalinity though the kidneys, lungs...

[Sun Apr 23 11:08:28 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

and an internal system called "the blood buffer system"

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[Sun Apr 23 11:08:48 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

(sorry, when start typing fast, my keys mix up!)

[Sun Apr 23 11:09:15 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

Under normal circumstances, these keep the blood alkaline.

[Sun Apr 23 11:09:33 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

And this is so important because the body produces so much acid, naturally.

[Sun Apr 23 11:09:51 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

No matter how you eat or live, you produce lots of acid.

[Sun Apr 23 11:10:10 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

The lungs, kidneys and blood buffer system take care of this..

[Sun Apr 23 11:10:27 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

but...

[Sun Apr 23 11:10:53 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

if a person starts to consume food and drink that adds more of an acid load than he normal amount produced by the cells.

[Sun Apr 23 11:11:12 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

then, acidity starts to increase

[Sun Apr 23 11:11:23 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

and the kidneys, lungs and buffers can't keep up

[Sun Apr 23 11:11:39 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

then, the load tips a little to the acid side and stays there

[Sun Apr 23 11:11:59 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

This is a very common condition of the blood today in modern people

[Sun Apr 23 11:12:10 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

and in this chronic acid state

[Sun Apr 23 11:12:19 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

many symptoms and diseases take root

[Sun Apr 23 11:12:35 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

For example, the foundation of the immune system is alkaline blood

[Sun Apr 23 11:12:59 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

If the blood stays in a slightly acid state, the immune system weakens

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and can't function as well

[Sun Apr 23 11:13:55 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

Then bacteria, viruses, etc., that would normally be kept in check by the immune system, are allowed to grow

[Sun Apr 23 11:14:09 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

This is the basis of all infection

[Sun Apr 23 11:14:34 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

Emotional health is also influenced by acid-alkaline

[Sun Apr 23 11:14:52 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

The person who is naturally alkaline is generally more positive

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and active

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and smiling

[Sun Apr 23 11:15:30 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

The person who has more acid blood tends to get more easily negative, depressed, angry

[Sun Apr 23 11:15:55 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

There is an old saying in macrobiotics that stopped me in my tracks way back in 1972:

[Sun Apr 23 11:16:16 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

"Biology precedes psychology"

[Sun Apr 23 11:17:08 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

You know, a wonderful thing about macrobiotics (mb)

[Sun Apr 23 11:17:31 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

is that it really is trying to help us put our biological condition in order

[Sun Apr 23 11:17:49 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

so that we can go an and do more with our lives than just worry about illness

[Sun Apr 23 11:18:26 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

Just think: if we didn't have all that energy going into headaches, arthritis, pains, worry, anxiety, diabetes, etc..

[Sun Apr 23 11:18:43 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

All of that energy is released to do other things in life

[Sun Apr 23 11:18:48 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

how wonderful!

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[Sun Apr 23 11:19:25 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

Macrobiotics is sometimes criticized as being so focused on the body, food and physical health...

[Sun Apr 23 11:19:31 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

and not so spiritual..

[Sun Apr 23 11:19:59 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

But macrobiotics is saying hat if you put your biological life in order, you can have so much more of a life adventure

[Sun Apr 23 11:20:25 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

because you now have all that energy to spend on life rather than illness and aches and pains

[Sun Apr 23 11:20:42 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

One of the ways we can do that is to apply the acid-alkaline theory in simple ways

[Sun Apr 23 11:20:54 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

It can be very simple...

[Sun Apr 23 11:21:29 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

The following three factors are most important in determining if a food is acid-forming

[Sun Apr 23 11:21:33 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

1. protein

[Sun Apr 23 11:21:37 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

2. fat/oil

[Sun Apr 23 11:21:46 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

3. refined carbohydrate

[Sun Apr 23 11:22:08 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

If a food is very concentrated in any one or more of the above, it is very acid-forming

[Sun Apr 23 11:22:25 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

Now, we know that we need some protein, fat and carbohydrate

[Sun Apr 23 11:22:46 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

But it's the amount and quality that is important

[Sun Apr 23 11:22:51 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

brown rice has protein

[Sun Apr 23 11:22:59 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

cheese has protein

[Sun Apr 23 11:23:15 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

the protein in each is acid-forming

[Sun Apr 23 11:23:30 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

but the protein in cheese is MUCH more concentrated than in brown rice

[Sun Apr 23 11:23:41 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

So, cheese is MUCH more acid forming as a result

[Sun Apr 23 11:23:58 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

And the brown rice also has minerals...

[Sun Apr 23 11:24:09 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

which help to neutralize the acidity

[Sun Apr 23 11:24:47 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

So, to easily determine if a food is acid-forming, just see if it is concentrate din protein, fat/oil, or refined carb

[Sun Apr 23 11:24:59 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

And with those you see the modern diet, right?

[Sun Apr 23 11:25:28 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

It is heavy with protein, fat and refined carbs, so the modern diet is very, very acid forming.

[Sun Apr 23 11:25:40 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

And the body cannot deal with all the acid load.

[Sun Apr 23 11:25:58 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

And many health problems rise up as a result.

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[Sun Apr 23 11:26:30 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

The number one waste that the kidneys must deal with each day is the waste that comes from eating protein.

[Sun Apr 23 11:26:49 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

Protein produces more waste than any other nutrient.

[Sun Apr 23 11:27:04 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

It is mainly acid waste..

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nitric, sulfuric and phosphoric acid

[Sun Apr 23 11:27:37 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

And they put a real strain on the kidneys

[Sun Apr 23 11:27:48 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

So, a high protein diet is risky over time.

[Sun Apr 23 11:28:15 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

The macrobiotic diet is so great for supporting alkaline blood because...

[Sun Apr 23 11:28:36 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

It is rich in plant foods that are full of minerals

[Sun Apr 23 11:28:53 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

And minerals are the body's source of alkalinity

[Sun Apr 23 11:29:20 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

vegetables and sea vegetables are especially alkaline-forming

[Sun Apr 23 11:29:39 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

miso soup = alkaline-forming

[Sun Apr 23 11:30:04 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

"alkaline-forming" means it forms alkaline the body AFTER it is eaten

[Sun Apr 23 11:30:32 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

Soem people are saying that grains are acid-forming...

[Sun Apr 23 11:30:45 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

yes, refined grains are acid-forming

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white rice, white flour

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but whole grains only minimally so..

[Sun Apr 23 11:31:35 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

plus in macrobiotics we cook them with minerals (sea salt, or kombu, etc)

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then we sprinkle a little condiment (like gomashio, etc)

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then we chew them well

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and we also serve them with vegetables

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sea vegetables

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miso soup

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etc.

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This all neutralizes the acidity in whole grains

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and so we can benefit from them in so many ways

[Sun Apr 23 11:33:04 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

Ok, that's enough from me, I think...

[Sun Apr 23 11:33:14 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

Any questions or comments?

[Sun Apr 23 11:33:33 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

Have you adjusted to my keyboarding yet? LOL

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[Sun Apr 23 11:33:45 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

I hope so!

[Sun Apr 23 11:34:04 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

I really did get "A's" in spelling in elementary school!

[Sun Apr 23 11:34:10 PDT 2006] chick

Excellent presentation, David.

[Sun Apr 23 11:34:17 PDT 2006] Gary

Can you please ask your questions to David via the ask window

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[Sun Apr 23 11:34:42 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

thanks, chick

[Sun Apr 23 11:35:16 PDT 2006] chick

You're welcome. Best yet.

[Sun Apr 23 11:35:51 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

I have seen many conditions such as HIV, Candida, other immune problems, sore throat, kidney conditions, etc improve dramatically through acid-alkaline application

[Sun Apr 23 11:35:58 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

And...

[Sun Apr 23 11:36:08 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

Sometimes diet alone is not enough...

[Sun Apr 23 11:36:13 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

If the kidneys are weak

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or the lungs weak..

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remedies and exercises to help them will be necessary

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[Sun Apr 23 11:36:49 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

many have "weak kidneys" without realizing it.

[Sun Apr 23 11:37:00 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

Signs of weak kidneys:

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1. frequent daytime urination

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2. regular nighttime urination + they have to get up in the night to pee

[Sun Apr 23 11:37:51 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

Those are the most common signs of weak kidneys

[Sun Apr 23 11:38:02 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

At night, the body should be resting

[Sun Apr 23 11:38:30 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

At night, the kidneys collect acid. Then, in the morning, when we get up, we pee it out first thing.

[Sun Apr 23 11:39:18 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

Or, you may notice that after you take a rest in the day, as soon as you get up , you go and urinate, right?

[Sun Apr 23 11:39:33 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

urinate/pee whichever you prefer

[Sun Apr 23 11:40:06 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

That's because when you get tired during he day, it usually means you are a little too acid

[Sun Apr 23 11:40:30 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

Tiredness/fatigue is one of the most common signs of acidity..

[Sun Apr 23 11:40:54 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

And so your body wants you to rest so that the kidneys can collect the acid...

[Sun Apr 23 11:41:13 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

And then when it goes out after urination, you feel better

[Sun Apr 23 11:41:20 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

am I right?

[Sun Apr 23 11:41:46 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

Well, watch and see in your own case..

[Sun Apr 23 11:42:10 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

The kidneys are really amazing...

[Sun Apr 23 11:42:24 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

They do so much work...

[Sun Apr 23 11:42:38 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

One of their jobs is to constantly filter the blood...

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and determine if minerals need to go out in the urination...

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or be reabsorbed into the bloodstream

[Sun Apr 23 11:43:25 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

Each time you urinate, some minerals go out naturally...

[Sun Apr 23 11:43:42 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

But if a person urinated too much, then too many minerals are allowed to escape...

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and this loss of minerals leads to loss of blood alkalinity...

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and so the acidity of the blood increases

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So, protecting the kidneys is really important.

[Sun Apr 23 11:44:50 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

The don't do so well with the following:

[Sun Apr 23 11:45:00 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

1. a high protein diet as already mentioned

[Sun Apr 23 11:45:07 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

2. a high salt intake

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3. cold foods and drinks

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4. exposure to cold weather

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5. exposure to fright = movies and TV shows, etc.

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or someone coming up behind you and scaring you with a "Boo!"

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6. foods that aren't cold by temperature but cause cooling in the body by nature

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for example, tropical fruit like bananas

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cause cooling in he body partly due to their high potassium

[Sun Apr 23 11:48:11 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

coffee is very high in potassium....

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careful, it taxes the kidneys and adrenals

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and cools off the body, too

[Sun Apr 23 11:48:57 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

soymilk...careful....very cooling to the body

[Sun Apr 23 11:49:47 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

It's fascinating hat a food can be cool or warming by nature rather than just by its temperature when consumed, no?

[Sun Apr 23 11:50:55 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

Certain macrobiotic foods can be acid-forming if over consumed and not taken in balance with other foods

[Sun Apr 23 11:51:19 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

For example, tofu being rich in protein is acid-forming

[Sun Apr 23 11:51:38 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

So, in the macrobiotic view as I teach it, tofu is rarely consumed on its own...

[Sun Apr 23 11:52:04 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

It's usually a part of soup or apart of a meal, not just big hunks of tofu

[Sun Apr 23 11:52:22 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

The same for tempeh...

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the same for beans...

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all very concentrate din protein...

[Sun Apr 23 11:52:46 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

and, again, we do need protein...

[Sun Apr 23 11:53:01 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

but in the macrobiotic view, protein isn't the "star of the show"

[Sun Apr 23 11:53:32 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

Beans, tofu, tempeh, etc., are not usually the center of the meal

[Sun Apr 23 11:53:53 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

although there are times when I do have just a bowl of lentil soup or some such dish...

[Sun Apr 23 11:54:12 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

But usually it's good to take protein rich foods as part of a more complete meal

[Sun Apr 23 11:55:18 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

I feel like I'm hogging the stage. I get real excited about sharing this with you! Any questions or comments?

[Sun Apr 23 11:55:31 PDT 2006] Pat

Can't frequent peeing be caused by weak bladder also?

[Sun Apr 23 11:55:48 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

Yes, that can come from a weak bladder, for sure.

[Sun Apr 23 11:56:00 PDT 2006] Pat

How to tell which it is?

[Sun Apr 23 11:56:21 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

Good question..

[Sun Apr 23 11:56:42 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

Usually, the person with the weak kidneys will also have other signs...

[Sun Apr 23 11:56:48 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

like chronic fatigue

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or frequent infection

[Sun Apr 23 11:57:37 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

Personally, I see more weak kidneys than weak bladders when I encounter frequent urination in others

[Sun Apr 23 11:57:44 PDT 2006] Gary

What exercises do you recommend to strengthen the kidneys

[Sun Apr 23 11:57:53 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

Qigong

[Sun Apr 23 11:58:04 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

many qigong exercises benefit the kidneys

[Sun Apr 23 11:58:26 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

especially those exercises that bend at the waist, forwards or backward or sideways

[Sun Apr 23 11:58:35 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

Also...

[Sun Apr 23 11:58:40 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

to help weak kidneys...

[Sun Apr 23 11:58:52 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

Do something hat is personally courageous.

[Sun Apr 23 11:58:58 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

What do I mean?

[Sun Apr 23 11:58:58 PDT 2006] Pat

I looked up the nutritional data on coffee when you mentioned it has lots of potassium. Says it has 3% of daily requirement, here: http://www.nutritiondata.com/facts-B00001-01c210s.html#nutrients-per-serving

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[Sun Apr 23 11:59:43 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

Well, it is the coffee bean, I suppose that is the rich potassium factor, I'm not sure how much exactly gets into the coffee itself

[Sun Apr 23 11:59:58 PDT 2006] Pat

per cup

[Sun Apr 23 12:00:10 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

ic, thanks for the info

[Sun Apr 23 12:00:52 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

And it's well known that coffee stresses the kidneys and adrenals

[Sun Apr 23 12:01:14 PDT 2006] Pat

I think the caffeine does that.

[Sun Apr 23 12:01:27 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

Personally courageous = something that you have had a fear of doing but COULD do and would benefit from it

[Sun Apr 23 12:01:49 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

Ok, sure the caffeine does that, yes, thanks

[Sun Apr 23 12:01:52 PDT 2006] Pat

like, get on the roof and fix a leak?

[Sun Apr 23 12:02:27 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

Well, something that won't put you in danger of falling!

[Sun Apr 23 12:02:45 PDT 2006] Pat

fear of heights, but difficult to fall off roof if careful

[Sun Apr 23 12:02:45 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

for example, if you have had a fear of public speaking...

[Sun Apr 23 12:03:22 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

courage is very strengthening to the kidneys

[Sun Apr 23 12:03:25 PDT 2006] Pat

How does speaking in public benefit me?

[Sun Apr 23 12:03:46 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

if you are afraid of it and you overcome it, it benefits you, I would think

[Sun Apr 23 12:03:48 PDT 2006] Pat

Gives feeling of accomplishment, from conquering fear?

[Sun Apr 23 12:03:56 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

I was just using hat as an example

[Sun Apr 23 12:04:04 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

yes, exactly

[Sun Apr 23 12:04:25 PDT 2006] Pat

getting on roof would do the same, for me

[Sun Apr 23 12:04:32 PDT 2006] macro_peter

Hi David, animal based proteins are rich in minerals too, what causes then their acidity?

[Sun Apr 23 12:04:59 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

Animal proteins are very concentrated source of protein and fat...

[Sun Apr 23 12:05:21 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

cheese for example has calcium, but also so rich in protein and fat...

[Sun Apr 23 12:05:32 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

so the rich protein and fat is more than the calcium

[Sun Apr 23 12:05:43 PDT 2006] Pat

protein slows absorption of carbs, moderates blood sugar

[Sun Apr 23 12:05:47 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

and that makes cheese very alkaline-forming, as I teach it

[Sun Apr 23 12:06:10 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

Well, keep in mind that I am not suggestion a "No protein" diet

[Sun Apr 23 12:06:39 PDT 2006] Pat

tahini on pancakes works well for me!

[Sun Apr 23 12:06:47 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

and I haven't said a "no animal protein diet" either

[Sun Apr 23 12:06:51 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

lol, pat

[Sun Apr 23 12:07:18 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

each person has to decide how they want to take protein

[Sun Apr 23 12:07:26 PDT 2006] Pat

be sure to have peanuts on top of your sundae...

[Sun Apr 23 12:07:38 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

But if we are talking from a traditional macro view, protein is not the star

[Sun Apr 23 12:08:23 PDT 2006] Pat

::rolls eyes except when it's seitan!

[Sun Apr 23 12:08:31 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

If a person is on a high protein diet and wants to apply acid-alkaline to how they eat...

[Sun Apr 23 12:08:51 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

I would suggest including plenty of vegetables

[Sun Apr 23 12:08:57 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

plenty

[Sun Apr 23 12:09:12 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

Speaking of seitan...

[Sun Apr 23 12:09:29 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

if you make your own it is SO MUCH better than any out there in the stores

[Sun Apr 23 12:09:48 PDT 2006] Pat

thank you, David, for being a slower typist, so I can insert jokes!

[Sun Apr 23 12:09:53 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

there is no comparison, really, between homemade and store bought

[Sun Apr 23 12:09:58 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

lol, pat

[Sun Apr 23 12:10:04 PDT 2006] macro_peter

what do you call a high protein diet? Is two servings a day to much?

[Sun Apr 23 12:10:38 PDT 2006] Pascal_Carlier

Q: Could a bit of wine balance a high protein diet?

[Sun Apr 23 12:10:44 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

If complex cabs are the main foods, then I would say that two servings are not so much protein

[Sun Apr 23 12:10:57 PDT 2006] LA

but seitan looks so scary in the pot! - so is that acid forming? ; - )

[Sun Apr 23 12:11:08 PDT 2006] Pat

ROFL

[Sun Apr 23 12:11:11 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

lol, LA

[Sun Apr 23 12:11:28 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

yes, the scary part is acid forming

[Sun Apr 23 12:11:31 PDT 2006] Pat

laughing makes alkaline!

[Sun Apr 23 12:11:36 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

scary

[Sun Apr 23 12:11:42 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

lol

[Sun Apr 23 12:11:42 PDT 2006] Pat

so make funny seitan!

[Sun Apr 23 12:11:56 PDT 2006] Pat

with plenty of tamari

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[Sun Apr 23 12:12:20 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

This group is too alkaline now, let's do something acid-forming

[Sun Apr 23 12:12:53 PDT 2006] Pat

I heard snake venom is very acidic, and anger makes same chemical in body.

[Sun Apr 23 12:13:04 PDT 2006] Pat

so let's get very mad to get acidic

[Sun Apr 23 12:13:16 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

shoyu, tamari, miso, umeboshi, sea salt, ume su (ume vinegar), gomashio and other condiments = all alkaline forming

[Sun Apr 23 12:13:29 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

BUT...don't overuse them...too salty then

[Sun Apr 23 12:14:25 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

Many of the acid-alkaline web sites that are very popular now are based on raw foods alkalinity...

[Sun Apr 23 12:14:41 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

and this can be alkaline-forming for sure...

[Sun Apr 23 12:14:48 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

but....

[Sun Apr 23 12:14:54 PDT 2006] Pat

what's your opinion of Green Magma in MB diet?

[Sun Apr 23 12:15:01 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

if the person is weak, cold, tired...

[Sun Apr 23 12:15:13 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

raw foods alkalinity may not be of benefit to them...

[Sun Apr 23 12:15:20 PDT 2006] Pat

Not exactly raw....

[Sun Apr 23 12:15:40 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

I liked the Green Magma before thy started adding the dextrose to it..

[Sun Apr 23 12:15:56 PDT 2006] Pat

for example, person who needs chlorophyll but occasionally cannot cook

[Sun Apr 23 12:16:12 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

no, I was responding to my previous raw statement, not Green Magma

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[Sun Apr 23 12:16:41 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

Green Magma, Barley Green, can be useful in many situations...

[Sun Apr 23 12:16:52 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

high cholesterol, for example

[Sun Apr 23 12:17:47 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

I like Green Magma and Barley Green (100% barley green) as they are more from whole food rather than fragments like supplements usually are

[Sun Apr 23 12:18:18 PDT 2006] Pat

and very delicious too

[Sun Apr 23 12:18:29 PDT 2006] LA

please elaborate - good for high cholesterol only for mb people, or also good for people on SAD? (green magma and barley green)

[Sun Apr 23 12:18:32 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

But, like everything else, they are right for some and not for others. It depends on the person and situation.

[Sun Apr 23 12:18:50 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

Good for many people on SAD

[Sun Apr 23 12:18:59 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

who don't or won’t eat many vegetables

[Sun Apr 23 12:19:02 PDT 2006] Pat

I have a big question for you David.

[Sun Apr 23 12:19:09 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

ok...

[Sun Apr 23 12:19:35 PDT 2006] Pat

Long-time macro person (me) gaining weight for no apparent reason. What could cause this?

[Sun Apr 23 12:19:46 PDT 2006] Pat

So far, 30 lbs.

[Sun Apr 23 12:19:53 PDT 2006] Pat

over five years

[Sun Apr 23 12:20:11 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

Well, I would need to know more details....

[Sun Apr 23 12:20:19 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

you can email me if you want....

[Sun Apr 23 12:20:21 PDT 2006] Pat

ask

[Sun Apr 23 12:20:25 PDT 2006] Pat

ok

[Sun Apr 23 12:20:34 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

david@macroamerica.com

[Sun Apr 23 12:20:45 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

I'll take a look later, ok?

[Sun Apr 23 12:21:20 PDT 2006] Pat

message sent

[Sun Apr 23 12:22:03 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

OK, pat

[Sun Apr 23 12:22:13 PDT 2006] LA

David, why do so many Drs, nutritionists, diet plans, etc. recommend drinking large quantities of water daily?

[Sun Apr 23 12:22:40 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

Yes, they do, but now I am starting to see many others who are advising agains tit..

[Sun Apr 23 12:22:40 PDT 2006] Pat

Simple answer = they can't think right

[Sun Apr 23 12:22:48 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

against it

[Sun Apr 23 12:22:53 PDT 2006] Gary

Just want to mention that David offers a course on Acid and Alkaline too that is inexpensive but so highly educational. He sends you the material via email. You can later ask him follow-up questions too

[Sun Apr 23 12:23:06 PDT 2006] Gary

the url for it

[Sun Apr 23 12:23:08 PDT 2006] Gary

http://www.simply-natural.biz/acid-and-alkaline-david-briscoe.php

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[Sun Apr 23 12:23:28 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

If a person is eating a high fat and high cholesterol diet, better drink more

[Sun Apr 23 12:23:49 PDT 2006] chick

I have read that it is because of the large amount of meat people eat that their bodies need a lot of water to cool it.

[Sun Apr 23 12:23:50 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

But even then the excess liquid may eventually weaken the heart and kidneys over the years

[Sun Apr 23 12:24:12 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

Yes, that is one of the views...too much heat

[Sun Apr 23 12:24:28 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

On international flights, I can always pick out the Americans...

[Sun Apr 23 12:24:43 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

they are always demanding more fluids from the flight attendants

[Sun Apr 23 12:25:38 PDT 2006] LA

I hear frequently from many sources to "stay hydrated" on flights.

[Sun Apr 23 12:25:45 PDT 2006] Pat_2

I got disconnected & missed about two minutes.

[Sun Apr 23 12:25:58 PDT 2006] Pat_2

Had to come back with different name

[Sun Apr 23 12:26:18 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

Yes, I heard that, too, and the flight attendants always tell me that...but I always feel best when I DON'T drink so much on those flights..

[Sun Apr 23 12:26:31 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

I go by how I feel, rather than the theory

[Sun Apr 23 12:26:31 PDT 2006] gxpark1234

David what are your thoughts on fish oil?

[Sun Apr 23 12:26:58 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

Personally, I think it is a scam that will die out like all the others...

[Sun Apr 23 12:27:02 PDT 2006] LA

Then I also hear warnings about the source and method of storage for water they give you on planes.

[Sun Apr 23 12:27:23 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

Do we need fat? Yes, of course?

[Sun Apr 23 12:27:32 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

Does it have to be fish oil?

[Sun Apr 23 12:27:40 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

I doubt it myself.

[Sun Apr 23 12:27:59 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

Please repeat question, pat

[Sun Apr 23 12:28:15 PDT 2006] Pat_2

David, have you seen the book "Alkalize or Die" and if so what do you think of it?

[Sun Apr 23 12:28:16 PDT 2006] chick

Dr. Sherry Rogers says cod liver oil is good for high cholesterol.

[Sun Apr 23 12:29:25 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

Yes, I have seen the book, long ago...

[Sun Apr 23 12:29:46 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

It was mainly based on raw alkalinity as I recall

[Sun Apr 23 12:29:47 PDT 2006] Pat_2

I think it has at least one excellent chapter, concerning drugs

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[Sun Apr 23 12:30:04 PDT 2006] Pat_2

sounded very macro, that one did

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[Sun Apr 23 12:31:01 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

It's odd to me how these things like fish oil capsules, flax oil, hemp seeds, etc. rise up in popularity, and everyone is told that we are now hanging by white knuckles onto the edge of the cliff of health if we don't use them...

[Sun Apr 23 12:31:27 PDT 2006] Pat_2

people want quick cures, that's why

[Sun Apr 23 12:31:41 PDT 2006] Pat_2

instant gratification mentality

[Sun Apr 23 12:31:42 PDT 2006] Pat_2

laziness

[Sun Apr 23 12:31:46 PDT 2006] gxpark1234

is it better to have them then not having them?

[Sun Apr 23 12:32:00 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

Soon, they lose their popularity as we find that, though they may have helped here and there, the majority of us still ahve to pay attention to what we do each day with the food we must eat

[Sun Apr 23 12:32:16 PDT 2006] LA

The new thing is the Tahitian Noni - at least I'm just hearing about it. Any comments about it?

[Sun Apr 23 12:32:44 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

Actually, I work with a number of people who have been doing some of these for a long time and developed health troubles as a result..

[Sun Apr 23 12:33:02 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

high protein diet, oil caps, etc...

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[Sun Apr 23 12:33:39 PDT 2006] Pat_2

Noni fruit on the bush stinks incredibly bad but the plaster is great for pain relief.

[Sun Apr 23 12:33:41 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

Be careful of anything that is concentrated, fragmented etc.

[Sun Apr 23 12:34:05 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

Anything can have its use at the right moment for the right situation

[Sun Apr 23 12:34:14 PDT 2006] gxpark1234

how about whole food powders ?

[Sun Apr 23 12:34:20 PDT 2006] gxpark1234

super foods etc

[Sun Apr 23 12:34:25 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

It's the things that are done day in and day out that one needs to pay attention to..

[Sun Apr 23 12:34:52 PDT 2006] Pat_2

In Hawai'i I had back pain from bingeing on mangos. They gave me noni plaster for the pain. It worked great! But there's no way I could have eaten it.

[Sun Apr 23 12:34:59 PDT 2006] LA

so very true. But people don't want to hear that

[Sun Apr 23 12:35:00 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

I see supplements, herbs, tinctures, powders as medicinal for temporary use maybe

[Sun Apr 23 12:35:20 PDT 2006] gxpark1234

ok

[Sun Apr 23 12:35:32 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

Well, I tell people when they come to me "I am not in the business of customer satisfaction"

[Sun Apr 23 12:35:42 PDT 2006] Pat_2

Also tried kava kava in ceremony with native Hawaiians. Very nice, but yin.

[Sun Apr 23 12:35:59 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

I tried durien fruit in Singapore ...

[Sun Apr 23 12:36:07 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

WOW...talk about yin

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[Sun Apr 23 12:36:18 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

I felt like I was on LSD

[Sun Apr 23 12:36:27 PDT 2006] Pat_2

interesting

[Sun Apr 23 12:36:29 PDT 2006] gxpark1234

david, u tried lsd??

[Sun Apr 23 12:36:47 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

no, but in the 60's I tried mescaline

[Sun Apr 23 12:36:56 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

I was way too yin back then...

[Sun Apr 23 12:37:05 PDT 2006] gxpark1234

oh ok

[Sun Apr 23 12:37:07 PDT 2006] gxpark1234

=)

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[Sun Apr 23 12:37:11 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

my mind was already at the place my friends were trying to get to with LDSD

[Sun Apr 23 12:37:14 PDT 2006] Pat_2

native American church uses peyote in ceremony - whole cactus, very different from mescaline extract

[Sun Apr 23 12:38:07 PDT 2006] heavenly_angel

is it better to be to yin or too yang?

[Sun Apr 23 12:38:12 PDT 2006] Pat_2

if you are healthy, it does not cause vomiting

[Sun Apr 23 12:38:33 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

In my opinion, there is no better, or good or bad to yin and yang

[Sun Apr 23 12:38:42 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

If you are happy yang, great

[Sun Apr 23 12:38:49 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

If you are happy yin, great

[Sun Apr 23 12:38:56 PDT 2006] Pat_2

which are you, David?

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[Sun Apr 23 12:39:01 PDT 2006] Pat_2

LOL

[Sun Apr 23 12:39:12 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

As far as health goes, the idea is to have yin and yang factors in somewhat harmony internally

[Sun Apr 23 12:39:25 PDT 2006] David_Briscoe

BOTH, I am happy yin and happy yang

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