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[hendrik]

Hello evrybody.

I have a question, and I am on a quest fore opinions.
What do you think about the money that’s been asked fore macrobiotic teachings, consultations, seminaries, summer conferences, books? Well, the educating we need fore the key to happiness.
Do you think it must be free, because it is right of every human being. Or is there more to say about it.

Thank you very much.

hendrik

[nisha]

hendrik,
first of all let me thank you for your response about sweaty hands.

onto the topic of macro teachers and consultants charging exorbitant sums of money for their services...i find it so discouraging. i do understand that everyone needs to make a living, but most of the people I have come across in this line of work are really taking advantage of their role. I find that the macro gurus make the very ability to practise macrobiotics with assistance an impossibility for most people (simply because of their fees)

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how much excess money does a truly balanced person need???

[Mara]

Originally Posted by hendrik

Hello evrybody.

I have a question, and I am on a quest fore opinions.
What do you think about the money that’s been asked fore macrobiotic teachings, consultations, seminaries, summer conferences, books? Well, the educating we need fore the key to happiness.
Do you think it must be free, because it is right of every human being. Or is there more to say about it.

Thank you very much.

hendrik

I don't know how practical it would be to make everything free, hendrik!
Counselors have to make a living, summer camps have to pay for food and rent. Publishers have to pay for paper, writers and editors have to make a living.

That said, I think as much as possible ought to be free. There should be plenty of lending libraries, work study options and scholarships.

[Bruce Paine]

hendrik,

While I believe that society should allow the people that inhabit it the freedom to exchange ideas with few constraints, since education, publication, food, and events cost something to produce then it's only fair, I feel, for the producers to charge something for it.

Show me a practical example of any individual, community, or society, that receives nothing in exchange for it's output, outside of a vacuum.

I feel that for all to prosper, a fair exchange of goods and services must be made.

What do you think or feel about that?

Thank you, very much.

Bruce Paine

[umeshoyu]

I agree that macro education is everyone's birthright, but I also know that many macro teachers and counselors and schools do not have excess money. It is sad but true state, that even though the prices seem to be high, they are in fact not enough in this society. Many are experts in their feilds, equivilant to doctors and lawyers in their education, yet make nowhere near that amount of money. The ones I know, work endlessly to make ends meet.
It is some times almost embarrasing to see the way they live.
Many macro schools are constantly on the verge of bankruptcy.
For myself, I cook, and I can tell you that I do not make enough for what I am giving out. Sometimes it ends up being close to minimum wage.
Macrobiotic people who dedicate their lives to macrobiotics, such as teachers counselors, cooks, and others have a life of giving, and not excess.
I have yet to see otherwise.

It is the order of modern society that prevents these things from being free. They should be subsidized by the gov.

Thanks

[hendrik]

Hello everyone.

(This message was intended to be before the one of umeshoyu.
He inspired my next message)


Thank you very much fore your replies.
I totally agreed it can not be fore free. And if the teachings are rely good I’m ready to pay good money. Because, what I learn is much more worth than all the money in the world. I’ll pay the last money I have to learn more. I belief in the justness of the universe. (although I sometimes don’t understand) That means if I don’t have money it is my own failure. Maybe I’m not chewing enough? Or I took some thing that was not mine too take. If the purpose is just, the money will be there. I consider money to be a kind of energy or a form off materialized will. A long time a go or maybe still, somewhere fare away (from may bed), people had no or very little money. They had to walk fore maybe hundred kilometres or more. They risked there lives fore so called forbidden teachings. (Jesus…) They paid no money but I don’t call this fore free. I sometimes spend money on things I don’t rely need fore my growth. An elimination or excess. Most of the times because I eaten to much or something extreme. What brings me out off balance and I lose my goal. And my will gets cloudy and desires take over. I think live is give and take or getting through giving. The more you give the more you get. You can’t get without giving. It makes no difference if it is money or something ells.

I agree whit Bruce complete “I feel that for all to prosper, a fair exchange of goods and services must be made.”

You could say that the cybermacro forum is fore free. But I think it is not. Many people have put in, and are still doing, a lot of energy to get this forum going. And let’s not forget the sponsor. And all the people who put in there time, ideas and advice to help each other.

Thank you very much.
Greetings, hendrik.

[hendrik]

I think it’s clear.
We are not doing it fore the money.
So much more can be said and even more must be done.
All together and by our self we can make the difference.
Thank you so much fore the motivation.
Hendrik.

[moxiesurf]

I hope that macrobiotics is never subsidized by the government!!!

I don't think that it is very expensive. This website is free to me, and run by volunteers, right? The books aren't expensive. If a person had an impending health problem and went to a macrobiotic practitioner or institute, the costs would be considerably less than a doctor, hospital, medicine, or operation (although some people have health insurance which would cover the latter).