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Old 07-05-2001, 08:05 PM
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Hi everyone,

This is to those of you who have children out there. What do you tell your family-parents, in-laws, etc.- when the topic of vaccines comes up. I am at a bit of a loss as to what to say, besides "weakening the immune system". Any hints, tips and resources would be much appreciated. Thanks.

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Elizabeth,

I'm sorry, but I have no children at this time but I'd still like to help.

I feel that the first thing you must ask is "Am I going to explain why I choose not to have my children vaccinated from a macrobiotic/holistic point of view or a mainstream scientific viewpoint?"

If your family-parents, in-laws, etc. have enough of an understanding of macrobiotics or holism (or are receptive to learning these perspectives) then it shouldn't be difficult to explain how you've come to your decision(s).

But if your family-parents, in-laws, etc., are not supportive of macrobiotics or holistic approaches to healing, then you got a lot of work ahead of you.

There's a war of words taking place presently between the pro- and anti-vaccine movements, and if you are not careful, you could get involved in some very heated arguments with people who are pro-vaccine.

If I were you I would not only familiarize myself with the anti-vaccine movements arguements but also the pros.

Here's a good place to start exploring the anti-vaccine movement:

Welcome to...Health Hazards of Vaccines: Support Groups
( http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.co...upport_org.htm )

And heres a good and ugly pro site:

Anti-vaccination Liars
( http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles/vaxquax.htm )

Also check out the August 2001 Consumer Reports article:
"Vaccines:An issue of trust".

Consumer Reports is also online at:
( http://www.consumerreports.org/ ) but don't expect to find this article there until sometime later this summer.

The August issue may not have reached the store shelves, yet, but keep looking.

I hope this helps.

Thank you, very much.

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Old 07-17-2001, 12:32 PM
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Elizabeth,

Here are some more resources that are critical of immunization and vaccinations:

What Price Vaccinations? by Simone Delarue
( http://www.celtic-seasalt.com/happresbook.html )
Do vaccinations help or hinder health?, author and former president of the League Against Mandatory Vaccinations [Vaccines: the Truth Revealed ( http://www.new-atlantean.com/global/vaccine.html )] she details the dangers and benefits of universal vaccination.

Here are some other publications:

VACCINES: ARE THEY REALLY SAFE AND EFFECTIVE? A Parent's Guide to Childhood Shots by Neil Z. Miller

IMMUNIZATION THEORY VS. REALITY: Expose' on Vaccinations
by Neil Z. Miller

IMMUNIZATIONS: THE PEOPLE SPEAK! Questions, Comments, and Concerns About Vaccinations by Neil Z. Miller

VACCINATION: 100 Years of Orthodox Research shows that Vaccines Represent a Medical Assault on the Immune System by Viera Scheibner, Ph.D

VACCINE VIDEO #1: VACCINATIONS AND CHILD HEALTH by the Aurum Foundation

A SHOT IN THE DARK: Why the P in the DPT Vaccination May be Hazardous to Your Child's Health by Harris L. Coulter & Barbara Loe Fisher

VACCINATION, SOCIAL VIOLENCE, AND CRIMINALITY: Medical Assault on the American Brain by Harris Coulter, Ph.D

VACCINATION & IMMUNIZATION: Dangers, Delusions and Alternatives
by Leon Chaitow

WHAT EVERY PARENT SHOULD KNOW ABOUT CHILDHOOD IMMUNIZATION
by Jamie Murphy

( http://www.new-atlantean.com/global/vaccine.html )

Read Let Food Be Thy Medicine by Alex Jack [New Edition ( http://www.macrobiotics.org/kistorebooks.html ) under Immunizations

Instead of printing everthing that Alex writes here, instead here are his references:

Risk of Immunization

What Every Parent Should Know About Childhood Immunization
Jamie Murphy ( http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/se...740223-3427259 )

Do Vaccines Cause Disease

Immunization:The Reality Beyond the Myth
( http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/AS...740223-3427259 )

Vaccines Counterproductive

Evolution of Infectious Disease by Paul M. Ewald
( http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/AS...740223-3427259 )


Maybe, now you'll be better informed for those discussions with your family-parents, in-laws, etc.

Thank you, very much.

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Thank you, Bruce, for the links.

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