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Old 04-25-2005, 10:30 PM
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Thanks to all, especially Mr. Paine, for all the information that this board provides! I've learned a lot browsing here. A new query:

Are there any macro campers around here? I'm planning to spend at least part of May in the wilderness and it will be the first time I've been camping with my new diet (which is liberal macrobiotic). Has anyone had success maintainingbalance out there? We'll be spending days backpacking and others car-camping, so a mix of resources wil be available. Contemplating the usual substitions of quick-cook oats and rice to conserve fuel, but what can I do for veggies? Is powdered miso even worth it? Dehydrating? Foraging?

Any tips, or book references, will be well appeciated.
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Old 04-27-2005, 05:26 PM
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Be careful with the dehydrated miso, BarleyBrains!

It can be a bit yang, if consumed too often.

The Mitoku misos http://www.simply-natural.biz/natural_foods_miso.php that come in a glass jar, keep very well in cool, dark, spots (best is either barley or brown rice miso) and are more balanced for one's health.

Macrobiotic camping shares many of the same features as macrobiotic traveling, including foods that you take with you and various cookware that you use to prepare and cook your food:

miso

shoyu

sea salt

sea vegetables

shiitake mushroom

kukicha (twig) tea

pure water

oil

grains

vegetables

beans

noodles

bread

umeboshi

a vegetable knife

cutting board

chop sticks (cooking and eating kinds)

wooden spoons and spatulas

various bowls and plates

pots

stove

scrubbers

and so on.

Car and roadside camping you can use either butane http://www.iwatani.com/asp/w_product...p?CategoryID=1 , propane, or white gas.

Backpack camping, you will either be cooking over a fire or a portable gas stove.

Pots can be a pressure cooker and a soup pot or two, a couple of regular stainless steel pots or if backpacking deep in the wilderness, nestling stainless steel cookware.

A portable water purifier can come in handy if one is going to be too far from clean water sources for a while.

Some macrobiotic travel information that can be useful:

Am Macro can travel by Illanit Tof
http://www.cybermacro.com/Macrobioti...y_Illanit_Tof/

"Natural Glory in Yosemite" by Lauren Mukamal
http://www.natural-connection.com/re...ite_glory.html

The “Bumps In the Road” Along One’s Journey by ANNE MARK
http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache...ient=firefox-a

Some extra camping tips:
http://www.lovetheoutdoors.com/index.htm

Have a good trip!

Thank you, very much.

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Yikes, I just bought a few dedydrated Miso soups. Too yang eh. I will only use them when it seems I am caught with a situation where I am simply starving (I never starve), or am trying to balance a day when I have not had any miso at all because I was on the go too much.

I see camping as a natural since you would use flame from gas or wood as being better than any electric source and being outdoors your apt to get more Oxygen. If you get the chance to sit next to any rushing water falls I am told that Mono-atomic Oxygen develops in the mist of them. I am also told this is good for you to sit in the area of the mist.
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Don,

Keep the dehydrated miso soups on hand for those times when you really don't have time to cook or it's to inconvenient to do so and you really want some miso quality energy.

If you can throw in some thinly sliced and or chopped yellow onions, daikon, and leafy greens, so much the better!


That Coleman white gas or propane stove could come in handy camping or cooking outdoors.


I've always considered being close to any natural body of moving water, such a a spring, a stream, a river, a pond or lake, the ocean, or a waterfall as being very refreshing and providing the air with lots of negative ions http://www.naturalhighs.net/waterfalls/grin.htm .

When I worked at the East West Center for Macrobiotic Studies in Los Angeles between 1982 and 1984, one of my jobs was to spray away all of the previous day's positive ionic energy (using a very long garden hose and a sprayer nozzle) that had accumulated on our parking lot and on the sidewalks surrounding our businesses, in the morning before we opened and you would be amazed on how many people were attracted to our environment and how much increased business that simple act stimulated.


Myself, I was born near the ocean in Santa Monica,California, and have always been happiest when I'm near the ocean or any body of water.

Thank you, very much.

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I was born in Carlsbad New Mexico, my parents had moved to San Diego California when I was two weeks old. I lived there next to many beaches, and ocean, tilll i was thirty.

At thirty I moved to the Pacific Northwest and am now 53. I have a dream. It is to be on the ocean in a yaught, with laptop, satellite driven cell phone. To move from the Pacific Northwest to San Diego across the water. In my dream in my back yard at home I have a large back yard with many fruit trees and a large vegatable garden all under a blue sky roof that I can control the amount of light coming in and the climate within. It has many walk ways, streams with bubbling brooks and a water fall that leads from a dressing room where you must pass through the water fall in order to get ready to swim in the pond (pool).

I also have a dream that I will share my love of people and this planet.

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Don,

It is good to have a dream to share love of people and the planet!

A like-minded soul is Steve Roberts who builds devices for travel while communicating using techno-sustainable devices such as recumbent bicycles http://www.microship.com/bike/index.html and trimarans
http://www.microship.com/microship/index.html

He's located not far from you and he might have some good tips on how to best follow your dream of yacht travel while communicating with the world.


Check out these links while pursuing the rest of your dreams:

http://www.backyardgardener.com/plants/gfruittree.html

http://www.ecogarden.dk/en/visiting/...le_garden.html

http://www.bio2.com/

Thank you, very much.

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