feeding dog macro

[anneh]

I am not talking feeding them strictly macro but just curious if anyone has fed their dogs longterm home-made diet including brown rice/veggies and possibly some meat/fish? I would like to know what supplements they give the dogs on that diet and if you use short grain brown rice and any other information possible. I did join a macro pets yahoo group but unfortunately no-one responds. I have Dr Ralston's book but would like more detail and alos how to obtain his sequel that he spoke of writing.
anne h

[bluebird]

anneh, i have fed my dogs over the past 30 years home made dog food. what i fed has evolved over the years but what i feed now that i am very satisfied with is a rolled oats or millet stew with plenty of vegetables, red lentils . a little salt, (they dont need much) a little sea weed and sometimes a can of fish gets added. cooking for one dog is easy. we cook for six right now and they are all outside dogs so they eat plenty. an inside dog would do just fine with no animal food at all. dogs are very adaptable. of course just like cooking for people watch their condition and their mood. i make it soupy, almost so that you could pour it out of the pot. my dogs do real well on it. i have one mixed hound that is over 15 years old. she was raised on our dog stew, her mom was one of my dogs (accidental litter) she plays like a young dog when she gets out to run. remember you will never get them to chew very well ( just like teenagers) so cook the vegetables well and stir well. contact me if you want to. i would be glad to discuss it further. it is something i have put alot of thought into. howard

[Karlitta]

I too feed my dogs macrobiotic food - rice, oatmeal. I include veggies as well. Here I want to give some advise however - I avoid feeding them raw onions, cabbage, broccoli, cauliflower. Those veggies are supposedly bad for their digestion. Fruits are on their menu sometimes. This depends on the individual dog (I own three). Chicken and fish in small quantities are also added to the rice dishes.
One of my Japanese friends includes 2 tbsp of cooked pumpkin into her dog's diet. Her dogs suffers from a stomach ailment. All her cats have lived to be a ripe old 18 years of age. Her mother's cat in Japan is still alive and well at the age of 23.

[Klara]

Karlitta and Bluebird,

I am very impressed by your dedication to your animals. Lucky dog!!!!

For those who just feed their dogs plain old bought dogfood, I found this on another site - I usually hate passing on negative posts, but it seemed such a nice opposite to what you animal lovers are doing - the yin/yang of it all. Hope it doesn't depress any animal lovers too much. (btw, the site is on Order, FLY stands for Finally Loving Yourself - flybabies are those of us learning, Flylady is our mentor)

Klara

Subject: Recall on Pet Food! Check your pet food for this brand!

Dear Marla,

Please tell all your flybabies to check and see what kind of dog food
they are feeding their dogs. There is a recall on a very badly
contaminated dog food on the East Coast that is killing dogs because
it has aflatoxin in it, a deadly fungal poison. The dog food is
Diamond dry dog food and has been recalled, but many people do not
know.

Our lovely poodle was fed this and is now at Cornell in the ICU. Our
cat ate her food and died. It is so hard on our family. I wish I had
known. Please tell people to stop and check what kind of dry food
they are feeding.

Jane Marie

FlyLady here: I heard about this recall but when it wasn't the dry
food we feed our dogs; I just forgot about it. Here is a link to the
recall.

http://www.diamondpetrecall.com/index.php

Originally Posted by Karlitta

I too feed my dogs macrobiotic food - rice, oatmeal. I include veggies as well. Here I want to give some advise however - I avoid feeding them raw onions, cabbage, broccoli, cauliflower. Those veggies are supposedly bad for their digestion. Fruits are on their menu sometimes. This depends on the individual dog (I own three). Chicken and fish in small quantities are also added to the rice dishes.
One of my Japanese friends includes 2 tbsp of cooked pumpkin into her dog's diet. Her dogs suffers from a stomach ailment. All her cats have lived to be a ripe old 18 years of age. Her mother's cat in Japan is still alive and well at the age of 23.

Hi
I was wondering what would be best combination of macrobiotic food for cats ?

[Karlitta]

The favorite macrobiotic food could only be a freshly killed mouse.
ok now to the more serious side of feeding your kitties. According to my veterinarian, don't change your cats food too often or too drastic.
Be careful with fish - it has been known to cause urinary problems in males. My cats shun fish totally.
My advice would be to feed the cats gently boiled lean chicken/turkey parts. Remove the bones, please. Add some chopped veggies - carrots are good - maybe a bit of spinach. Scrambled eggs or cottage cheese - here we are however not talking macrobiotic. Forget about the brown rice, my cats won't eat it. Dogs however thrive on it.
All in all, just add a bit of the above mentioned to the already established diet. See how the cats like it and go from there. oh don't let me forget tofu - excellent protein. Simmer it for 10 minutes in water before adding to kitty diet. Simmering it seems to break down the protein - so I read.
I want to recommend a book to you - Natural Health for Dogs and Cats - Dr. Pitcairn's.
Good luck, Karlitta

[anneh]

Hi everyone, so kind of you all to post on this subject. In my case I really am trying to cut back on the amount of animal protein I feed altho I recognise that it is natural for my dog to have some and will continue to provide it but on a smaller scale than I was. He is doing well on the well soaked/long cooked organic shortgrain brown rice. Just wondering how much seaweed Ishould add to soak/cooking water for approx 1/2cup uncooked rice for a 60lb dog? He has been getting his usual 1/2 avocado in the morning (my husband eats other half, he is 83yo and in perfect health altho not macro). Then for breakfast he gets about 1/3 cup cooked rice with a raw egg yolk on it. For dinner its a raw meat or steamed white fish filet (or occasional can of sardines unsalted and in water)and a cup of raw crushed veggies, today I added a tsp each pumpkin seeds and sunflower seeds to the crushing. He gets some organic plain yogurt before bedtime and snacks are varied but have been dehydrating sliced sweet potatoes and he loves them (was paying $14 for Sams Yams) I do have the Dr Pitcairn book.
anneh
. QUOTE=Karlitta]The favorite macrobiotic food could only be a freshly killed mouse.
I want to recommend a book to you - Natural Health for Dogs and Cats - Dr. Pitcairn's.
Good luck, Karlitta[/quote]

[Klara]

Ok, animal lovers. Now that we've gone from dogs to cats, I'd like to bring it to smaller animals, my cockatiels.

We have a male and female (mother and son, which puts off what they did alot to my kids!!!!) who gave birth to three babies. They're about 6 weeks old now and the vet says they are ready to wean. It doesn't matter except that the parents don't seem so inclined to feed them anymore and the baby birds squock (sp??)(well, that might be chickens, don't know the term for the terrible noise the babies making when they want to be fed). But that's not the worse of it. The parents seem to be pecking the feathers out of the babies, and especially the one which turned out to be an albino (white feathers). So we've separated the babies but I'm wondering if anyone has experience feeding baby birds.

I'll go cut up now some vegetables and put a little brown rice in their cage - other suggestions???

And they're calling loudly to each other - parents to babies - what to do???

Klara