[Klara]

Oh Dear - Bruce you give lots of good info, but not the best relationship advice. I don't believe dishonesty ever serves a relationship well. Respecting the other person and where they are on the road of life is ideal. Non-judgment is ideal.

Now don't misunderstand - we can't all live on the ideal level - real life does interfere. We do have expectations from others and disappointed when they're not met - and as LilMiz already understands, one really can't force anything on another person - they must realize it on their own. Knowing from my own experience, the more someone tries to force something on me, even if it's for my own good, the more I resist. And force it deceitfully, forget it - I wouldn't want to be around when the fireworks go off!!!!!

For Lil Miz, don't get too stuck on bread - whole grains will give you much more mileage!!!!!

Klara