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Old 01-12-2006, 05:37 AM
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Ginat's Chat

I wanted to express how tranformative I found it to read the transcript of the cybermacro chat that Ginat conducted a few days ago. I had intended to be ther elive but when 4am struck Australian time, the hour got rhe better of me!

It sounded like it went very well.

It was a great turnout. I also wanted to acknowledge Gary for hosting it and organizing it and Klara for her enthusiam and efforts to make sure everyone knew about it. And I want to let Ginat know how much her openess and willingess to share impacted on my understanding.

It gave me a lot of cause for reflection. I had considered writing these reflections to the people involved privately but felt that in the spirit of the realisations that were mentioned that I may try to express them here.

The issues of non resistance that you mentioned in the outline of your experience, Ginat is something I grapple with a lot. I have been immersed in the field of transformative practises since my teens as I attmepted to hea and dabbled in many avenues in my attempts to heal juvenile diabetes for many years. I have learnt a great deal and realised a lot but I now feel that at the core of the inability to truly transform this condition - so far - is some deep resistance. I would welcome further discussion on this issue as I feel it is at the core of much lack of peace and separation throughout existence.

I also found that a great deal of judgement cropped up in my awareness of how healing should look and your reports of the treatment that you included - including the medical avenues highlighted that for me. Although I have always advocated that whatever treatment the individual chooses is okay - I did find that when it came to it that I had judgments and questions about why this option wasused. I guess it reflects my own resistance to allowing healing to occur in any manner and that I still want to control how healing will look or happen.

I loved the way that you conducted the caht and created a space for exploration.

I found the discussion of daying YES! to everything very topical.

One of the most amazing yet confrontational healing and consciousness fields I have been involved in....a very embracing and peaceful one but one that terrifies me on some level because I know it cuts to the very core of existence if one lets it and I am having trouble letting it....anyway - the Ishaya's Ascension. Which on the surface appears to be a meditation technique which is part of it however it also encompasses an understanding of how to achieve full human consciousness which seems to be our very birthright but which we run from.
Far from being a fluffy new age belief system, its very nature seems to be the dissolution of beliefs.

www.ishaya.org
www.theishayatradition.org


some books by MSI - First Thunder
Ascension
Enlightenment

all quite spectacular.

the reason I mention it here is that the idea of ebing able to say YES to everything was once mentioned by the modern day founder of it in the West - MSI - Maharishi Sadashiva Ishvaram (I hope I got his name right there.
I believe he said that if one could say yes to everything - EVERYTHING for a week then one would be free....

He also asked - "where in your Life are you compromising?"


So I am left ponderng -

how does one say YES to everything?

what do you do when you get to a place in yourself/become aware of a place where you cannot say yes but want to?

how does one surreneder EVERYTHING to the he Creator?

thanks for playing with me in exploration and awareness


xoxoxo

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