[Johnnyzen]

Jane is losing credibility fast here. I am she she knows that Atkins causes ketosis, which causes seeious bad breath. She also knows that many Atkins people take laxatives because the diet is almost void of natural fiber. I am sure she also knows that a diet low in fiber can cause serious health problems.

I am sure some macro people have bad breath on occasion, if they eat too much garlic! I have not noticed it as a problem with macro people at all.

Some Europeans do eat a rather rich diet, but the portions are small, and theydo eat many fruits and vegetables, and whole grains. The Hunzas, by the way, are very macro; they eat almost no animal foods except for special feasts. Theirs is a whole gerain starch based diet.They are known for their good health. The Asian studies on semi-vegetarianism are interesting as far as verifying the benefits of a plant based diet.

Atkins is just plain ridiculous on many levels. I know many more Atkins people than I do macro, since it is very popular here. Very few have had sustained weight loss. Several got very sick on the diet. One was hospitalized for kidney problems.

Dr Klaper, who wrote a book on vegan nutrition, used to be a heart surgeon. He describes what he saw with his patients who ate many animal products. It is not pretty.I will spare you the details!!!!

Personally, I have been vegetarian around 32 years, not strictly macro. I have a consistant blood pressure of 110 over 60, very low cholesterol, I exercise hard most days, and am in good health. I think I will stick with plant foods!