[garymill]

I feel that it is best to close this thread. We can conclude simply that both Michael and Roy and differing opinions on this subject, a multitude of more posts by each of them is not going make any difference. The thing here is I want to attempt to keep a sense of peace within the forums. I have learned my lesson the hard way a few years back where I let a few people with very strong personalities dominate the forums to the extent that most of the members left for a far less contentious forum to the point that it too well over a year for the forums to recover from the damage inflicted to them. My closing this thread is simply preventing this from even beginning to happen again.