Bill Neall: Harold...you wouldn't think so

Paul Campbell: welcome back kaare : In fact, Kaare was a veterinarian before macrobiotics

Harold: Something obviously happened in his life to make him antagonistic (more than most) toward medicine and science

Bill Neall: Hi Kaare

Harold: Oops, he's here....

Paul Campbell: Hi Jon

Kaare:as I was saying before being so rudely interrupted:)

Paul Campbell: Bye Jon

Bill Neall: I think he has a good understanding of the differences between macrobiotics and medicine and science

Paul Campbell: Hi again Jon

Dax: i'm a vegetarian too, eat however a little bit of fish from time to time

Bill Neall: hello Jon...glad you could show up

Kaare:Hello

Kathleen: My story? Back in school, is interfering with my meditation and yoga practise, feeling very yucky because of it, decided that no matter what, I must eat, so maybe a practise that manifests in part with food? So just easing into it now, already a veg.

Bill Neall: Kaare...you were talking about the balance of materialism and disease

Paul Campbell: Jon we all got kicked off and are returning one by one like dispersed troops

Non Arrogant Harold: Kaare, that was not me who said those things, but rather my brother, the regular Harold....

Kaare:Harold, if you want to go rdeeply into why I am so antaganostic toward medicien and science

Kaare:check out the page on my website entitled

Non Arrogant Harold: My brother, Harold, was curious, that's all

Non Arrogant Harold: I'll tell him

Bill Neall: NAH..are you and your brother in the same body?

jon sandifer: j\jambo Kaare,Habari yako?

Non Arrogant Harold: LOL

Non Arrogant Harold: Only when we get in trouble

Kaare:Modern Scientific Medicine - A Tragic Error

Bill Neall: NAH...that clarifies it, thanks

Non Arrogant Harold: Kaare, are there any "good" doctors, in your humble opinion?

Kaare:I am fine Jon - long time since I spoke Swahili

Kaare:Yeah, in my humble opinion, the ones who have dropped the MD after their name

Paul Campbell: Hi Nadine welcome back

nadine Barner: missed anything?

Non Arrogant Harold: harsh....what about retired doctors....

Bill Neall: how many doctors do you think are truly macrobiotic?

Non Arrogant Harold: or doctors who are demented?

Paul Campbell: no we were all out

nadine Barner: that site of yours is not perfect hey?

Bill Neall: NAH...define doctor

Kaare:Okay, lets check out this doctor thingy

Non Arrogant Harold: Marc Van Cawenberg

Non Arrogant Harold: MD

jon sandifer: Kaare, where is Marc van C these days

nadine Barner: KI?

Kaare:So he is disqaulified:)

Non Arrogant Harold: what about chiropractors?

Dax: marc van cauwenberge, you mean the belgian doctor ?

Bill Neall: I hear marc is into pro-biotics

Dax: this is my first chat here bill, are there other times or places to chat

Bill Neall: Kaare is, in my opinion, leading macrobiotics into new thinking

Kathleen: Thankx <

Bill Neall: Dax...for now this time is the ohnly one...you could probably set up times for yourself

Dax: i haven't read anything about antoposophy, so it seems very strange to me

Harold: Separating the wheat from the chaf

Harold: what is that big work Dax

Kathleen: Ha, I'll speak for the chaf

Harold: Remember, I flunked Greek Mythology

Bill Neall: Yes Anthroposophy seems really strange at first...it helps to have some macrobiotics behind you...

Dax: i don't see the connection with macrobiotics right now

Dax: what big work harold ??

Bill Neall: It took me at least 5 years before I even wanted to look at it...

Kathleen: So Dax, are you new to this too?

Paul Campbell: what is that Bill

nadine Barner: works at the beginning for some people

Kaare:Sofia Rodrigues is great - one of my students - I counselled when she was dying and she now has the most successful network chiropractic practice in the country

Non Arrogant Harold: what about osteopathic physicians, are they somewhere between MD's and DC's?

Non Arrogant Harold: Isn't it sort of silly to label someone good or bad based upon their degrees designated?

db: again, what is pro-biotics?

Bill Neall: Pro-biotics is additives for the intestines fo aid in digestion

Kaare:The point is Harold that modern medicinne is based on a very incomplete picture of life an dthe human being

Non Arrogant Harold: Do you think there is any usefullness in ER (emergency room) medicine?

Paul Campbell: He was one of the best teachers at the old KI in London

Non Arrogant Harold: but Kaare, we are indeed made up of such things (Chemistry 101 - I passed that one)

Kaare:no we are not

Kathleen: Kaare, I agree with you that science and med ARE incomplete, but I think they can be transformed into something complete, but that this is not going on now.

Bill Neall: Kathleen...how would this be done?

Kaare:yes, and it is macrobiotics job to transform it

Bill Neall: Kaare...are you sure it's a transformation?

Non Arrogant Harold: Bak to this idea that we are not made up on molecules and atoms....dwell on that for a moment Kaare

nadine Barner: yes Kaare explain

Kathleen: I'm an engineering student, my interest