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Cybermacro Chat With Jon Sandifer 3/14/99 Please visit Jon's web site www.johnsandifer.com
Paul Campbell: Hi Jon welcome Jude: Hello Jon Craig: hi Jon Paul Campbell: are you having to do your own typing Jon??? lol Jude: lol jonsandifer: Hello everyone Paul Campbell: Hi glad you could make it Jude: hi Duncan jonsandifer: Renata is typing for Jon Paul Campbell: who is typing for you? jonsandifer: My angel # Paul Campbell: Hi Dunc great you could make it Paul Campbell: Hi Renata jonsandifer: Hi, Paul Paul Campbell: Jon I would like to introduce you to Gary Miller who runs the USA site Jude: hi Bonita Paul Campbell: Hi Bonita welcome jonsandifer: Where are you based Gary Gary: I am in New Hampshire Bonita: Hello, i haven't been on a chat line in a while! Gary: I heard Paul's interview of you and really enjoyed it! Paul Campbell: Gary was running Ed Esko's site but has gone 'solo' jonsandifer: This my first time also Paul Campbell: I think it's very brave of you to join in like this Jon Jude: My computer wouldn't download the interview :~( jonsandifer: Thanks ,Gary Paul Campbell: Hi Bill Jude: hey Bill Gary: Hi Bill jonsandifer: Hi Bill - Paul
Campbell: Jon we don't
really have a structure for this so I guess
we jonsandifer: That's fine Jude: Hi Susan Paul Campbell: Jon did you hear the interview we did Paul Campbell: Hi Susan welcome susan: hi jude, jon, and everyone jonsandifer: Not yet susan: hi paul, thanks Bill Neall: hello everybody jonsandifer: Hi, Susan Paul Campbell: I thought it wasn't too bad but I was a bit nervous susan: hi jon. we met at the macro conference two years ago. Paul Campbell: you can tell from my voice Bill Neall: Paul...I went to your site to get the interview...where is it? jonsandifer: I thought you were very profesional Paul Campbell: thanks...lol it's on the mbuk radio bit jonsandifer: Susan, was that in Vermont ? Paul Campbell: Bill susan: yes. Paul Campbell: its on real audio Gary: Paul is indistinguishable from a BBC Interviewer. Bill Neall: I didn't see it advertised susan: missed you at last years conference Paul Campbell: ha ha .. Bill Neall: yes, all I got on real audio was Heaven Paul Campbell: Jon can I ask a question? Bill Neall: no other choices Jude: hello florence jonsandifer:
It's quite an expense to get to the States with
a travel Paul Campbell: Why do you think the other teachers might be shy of coming in on the chats? Bill Neall: Jon...how do you perceive the state of macrobiotics these days? Paul Campbell: I changed it yesterday Bill jonsandifer: Probably like me, they don't type ! Bill Neall: Jon...why don't we see more teachers on the forums? susan: it's great that you have chosen to join the chat, jon . .. jonsandifer: It would appear to be in the doldrums Bill Neall: Jon...why do you think that is? Craig: macrobiotics is in the doldrums ? jonsandifer: Do you mean , Bill, website forums? Jude: hey Stewart Bill Neall: Jon..yes bon:Are there any macrobiotic centres like the Kushi institute in England, Scotland or France? Do they have work study programs? Jude: yes, I'd be interested in that too Jude: bonita Bill Neall: this is going to get complicated... jonsandifer: I think , basically , MB needs to reinvent itself susan: where is everyone from? Paul Campbell: It will level out... Jude: England Paul Campbell: England Craig: Colorado susan: new jersey Bill Neall: Jon...who is going to do the reinventing? Gary: New Hampshire jonsandifer: There is no more Kushi Institute in Great Britain Bill Neall: San Francisco bonita:Canada but currently New Hampshire jonsandifer: England jonsandifer: Perhaps the next generation Bill
Neall: Teachers need to
join in the forums on the web and get into Bill Neall: Jon...no, you can't say that...we are going to do it susan: this is a great way to establish a support group world-wide Craig: why reinvent ? Bill Neall: Jon...what is the next generation going to base it on? Jude: how exactly would you go about reinventing it? jonsandifer: I am sure it is a very good medium to open up the discussions Bill Neall: Jon...it will keep getting rehashed and going over the same old stuff Craig: reinventing would worry me, it seems that whenever something is reinvented it is simplified and not like the original Bill Neall: We know, or ;should know, what the basics are... Jude: Hey Donna Paul Campbell: Hi Donna welcome Bonita: pioneers explore - i don't think we should be afraid to Bill Neall: Craig...how do you think mb is going to change Donna: Hi everyone Bill Neall: ]Donna susan: hi Craig: the books or explanations might become more western sounding, more easily understood by us westerners Bill Neall: Jon...where do you think the problem lies jonsandifer: In my recent experience of meeting with macro teachers in switzerland, I realised they are teaching the same material and the same style from 10 years ago, while at the same time complaining that they have jonsandifer: little income Bill Neall: Jon...that's because they're stuck jonsandifer: Hi , Donna Donna: Hi Jon Bill
Neall: Jon...and also
you have to support yourself and heal yourself
as jonsandifer:
It's the comunication of MB that needs to meet
with current Craig:
too bad the real income is going to these quick
fad diet programs, Bill Neall: Nobody said it was going to be easy Bill Neall: and magnets Donna: Jude, did you find the forum? I sent the URL and the very next day it was changed! Donna: find - I meant find Jude: no I didn't find it :-( Bill Neall: The macrobiotic community is moving sideways jonsandifer: Has this magnet fad taken off in the US? Jude: hello Emily Craig: yes, especially with pro sport teams Donna: When you get to the chat page at first, there is a button saying forum - that's what you want jonsandifer: Hi, Emily Bill Neall: I think it's just an excuse for working on your own deeper stuff Donna: hello emily emily: hello Bill Neall: Jon...yes, Bill Tara is claiming to be making 40K a month Paul
Campbell: Jon you visit
both sides of the Atlantic, do you think the Jude: i c, I'll check it out, donna Bill Neall: Now, there's a case of big distraction to macrobiotics jonsandifer: I believe the teaching style is much the same Donna: Okey, dokey Jude. Emily, where are you? emily: I live in Florida susan: my sister has been working with nikken magnets in canada for about 8 years now and is doing very well with them Bill
Neall: Jon...you say the
teaching is the same as 10 years ago...and Craig: i thought magnets were mainly for pain Paul
Campbell: :::::Can I say
at this point that if anyone wants to chat Bill Neall: Craig...magnets have become the next bluegreen algae susan:
they have a wide range of products, including
sleep pads, quilts, Bill Neall: Paul...this will further complicate things, I think Craig:
Could macrobiotics be taught a little differently,
I talk to many jonsandifer:
Bill, no I think it's because the teachers don't
get together Bill Neall: Private is inclusive, isn't it? Jude: have macrobiotics been proven to help asthma? Bill
Neall: Jon...yes, we hold
two conferences a year and only several Bill
Neall: Recently, we've
lost several teachers to the magnet thing...and
Donna: Hi Florence Paul
Campbell: Bill I thought
that if people wanted to discuss small things
Donna: Oh, she went Bill Neall: Paul...sorry...I agree jonsandifer: OK Bill
Neall: Jon...teachers
aren't listening to teachers...I've seen this jonsandifer: Does anyone have a question? Jude: yes, has macrobiotics been proven to help asthma? Jude: hey sheri Paul Campbell: Hi welcome sheri Sheri: Hey Jude Sheri: Hi Paul Donna: Hi Sheri Bill Neall: Jon...would you be so kind to participate in our forums at this site...this would be a step in the right direction Paul Campbell: Hey Duncan are you there? jonsandifer: I knew several people who ceasde having atacks after beginning MB Sheri: Hi Donna Jude: that's good Jude: I have had asthma since I was five Bill
Neall: Jude...macrobiotics
allows your body to heal itself...of jonsandifer: Bill, can I see how I survive this hour , first! Bill Neall: if you're willing to set it in motion Craig: I have a question jonsandifer: Ok Craig Bill
Neall: Jon...the forums
are different...you can come and go as you jonsandifer: Bill, OK Craig: Is there any confusion now with teachers and the macrobiotics in general between the Kushi ins and the Vega institute jonsandifer: Hi, sheri Sheri: Hi Jon jonsandifer: Not to my knowledge Jude: Paul, did you get my e-mail about the starter pack?? Bill Neall: Craig...Jon may not know about what is going on at vega Gary: Jon, do you have one topic that is important to you the most? jonsandifer: Right ! Craig: Ok, I have recently started to get the Vega catalogs here Bill Neall: Craig...Vega, since Herman died, has been in a state of chaos and probably won't survive Bill Neall: Craig..however, change is good and what comes out of it remains to be seen Donna: Does anyone know anything about the mb centre in Antwerp? Can people study there? jonsandifer: Gary, currently I write books and articles and very little teaching or counseling , by choice Bill Neall: Craig..as for the relationship of east coast to west coast, we think differently out here and have different takes on things than the KI jonsandifer: Donna, I generally visit a couple of times a year gary: Thanks Jon. Bill Neall: Craig...as far as I'm concerned... Donna: what happens there? Donna: what happens there? Donna: Is it a KI? Bill Neall: Craig..that is not including most former KI graduates jonsandifer: Donna, most of their courses are in flutch ! jonsandifer: Donna, no longer Craig: ok susan: jon, what are your recent publications? Donna: oh, well... Bill Neall: Craig...yes, vega is sending out catalogs...problem is, very little teachers and less response...herman's son Jiro has burned many bridges Bill Neall: Craig...and Jiro is not macrobiotic jonsandifer: I just published Feng shui ( Piatkus) and Feng Shui Journey comes out in May and I've got contract to do a guide to MB susan: i bought your feng shui astrology book when we met in '97 . . . i'd be interested in anything you've written after that Craig: that doesnt sound good for the Vega group, not even being macrobiotic susan: how can i order copies of both? jonsandifer: Susan, where do you live ? susan: new jersey Bill Neall: Craig...yes, there lies the problem...and they're also stuck in the same place for many years and are unwilling to change Craig: who is David Briscoe then ? jonsandifer: Susan, Paul has set my website to Amazon US and UK Bill Neall: Craig...now, the KI is also struggling, I hear Donna: I have to go early tonight - I've got lots to do. Speak to you all next week! Donna: Bye! Craig: I would hate to see the KI quit or go under Sheri: Bye Donna jonsandifer: By, Donna Donna: LHP, everyone susan: bye donna Bill Neall: Craig...David Brisco resigned as manager of Vega last fall...he is no longer associated with them as are manyh others emily: bye donna Jude: bye donna' susan: jon, are your books available through amazon.com? Bill Neall: Craig...why Vega doesn't address this is beyond me...on one hand, they blame everybody for their situation, and on the other, the leave the prior associations in tack Bill Neall: If anyone wants to contact vega, the number is (800) 818-8342 Sheri: Bye Jude Bill Neall: hey jude jonsandifer: I would like to acknowledge Paul for getting this chat line going and I hope many more macros get to hear about it susan: take care, jude Jude: u too Jude: BYEEEE!! susan: great job, paul . . . kudos to you! Bill Neall: also, Gary Miller on this end Paul Campbell: Bye Jude see you later emily: bye jude susan: kudos to you, gary, and to everyone for coming jonsandifer: Sorry I forgot Gary! susan: this is great! Sheri: Yes Paul, this is wonderful susan: thank you, jon, for being here Paul Campbell: I hope this will be the first of many Bill Neall: Jon...we would also like the forums to get more participation jonsandifer: Did you all know that Paul ran the East West restaurant in London? Bill Neall: Jon...so let your friends know that we exist, everybody...and check out the website Paul Campbell: Bill there was some heavy stuff on the forum this week Bill Neall: fJon...what happened to the Community Health Project Paul Campbell: CHF jonsandifer: Bill, the ChF got into financial difficulties Bill Neall: Paul...yes..I personally think it's great...I'm enjoying the interaction and hope others do to... Paul Campbell: Hey what is everyones 9star ki signs? I,m 252 Phoebe: hey Bill Neall: Paul...I don't want others to feel excluded from asking their questions, however Paul Campbell: hi P Sheri: Hi Phoebe Bill Neall: Paul...I am there to help and learn from everybody Paul Campbell: Hi shy person Craig: Paul, I actually forgot mine emily: hi pheobe jonsandifer: Hi, Peoebe jonsandifer: Hi, xxx Phoebe: hi xxx Bill Neall: Jon...it seems that all mb things go that way...why don't we or can't we get the support we need just to keep things going Bonita: bonita:Jon or Paul or any euro connected folk. I'm hoping to study more at the Kushi institute but this may not be possible Visa wise thus i am also looking for possibilites in the uk or france where i might learn from people in the field and also bring mb to the next generation. Any ideas? Suggestions? Paul Campbell: Bill I was showing my kids the site and coming from that perspective it puts a different light on the subject Bill Neall: Bonita...yes, one is to do it over the web bonita: Spain too Bill Neall: Paul...I assume you're talking about the xxxx stuff last week Paul Campbell: yes I guess so Bill, I didn't stay too long but it did,n't give me a good feeling.. Bill Neall: Paul..Ed's kids were interested in talking about macrobiotics, but in the end, they weren't ;interested jonsandifer: I believe it's all down to getting into communication again, and nobody can force it . Bill Neall: Paul...sorry, that shouldn't have ever happened...but it's an open forum and there is always that possibility susan: wish i could chat longer, but gotta go . . . it's been great Craig: Jon do you feel that macrobiotics in general is fading away susan: see you next week Craig: talk to you later Susan Sheri: Bye Susan Phoebe: bye susan: bye y'all! jonsandifer: Bonita, you may wish to contact the KI in Amsterdam susan: thanks again jon Paul Campbell: Bye Susan Bill Neall: Paul...some people are very sick and don't always realize it...look at what garbage comes in through the media... susan: . . .poof! Bill Neall: Pual...this is even more dangerous Paul Campbell: I agree Bill Craig: give an example of garbage through the media that could be dangerous jonsandifer: Craig, many people still practice MB and without a doubt shiatsu , wholefood shops even Fang Shui ows a lot to the MB pioneers Bill Neall: Poof? is there a different meaning to that in the UK, no? Paul Campbell: Yes....lol Bonita: so the impression i'm getting is that there are not very many places out there to learn macrobiotics and very little communication happening between groups Craig: so many once health food stores here are becoming more and more gourmet stores instead jonsandifer: Paul, OK Bill Neall: Dairy and meat industry in the schools, genetic engineering, politics...candy wrapped in packages to look like cigarettes...soda in bottles that look like beer Bonita: is this true? and thank you jon for the amsterdam suggestion emily: there should be one of these forums in asia or China or Japan Craig: I agree 100% Bill, the pop industry is taking over all of the school districts here Sheri: I need to run for now.....Jon - thank you for coming today Paul Campbell: Bye sheri thanks for coming Bill Neall: Craig...the creeping corruption into our lives in order to collect the almighty dollar and maintain power jonsandifer: Bonita, we began a summer camp 15 years ago in the UK with 30 people - this year the host are expecting 300! Sheri: It was a pleasure, I enjoyed your website too Bill Neall: Craig...the attempted capture of the food supply by Monsanto and others.. .control of crops jonsandifer: Thank you, Sheri bonita: That's wonderful! Where are you holding it this year? Craig: that is also very dangerous and scary Bill, Monsanto is a lovely company Sheri: :-) Bye, bye - see ya'll next week Bill Neall: Modern medicine and it's control over the individual through fear jonsandifer: Near Stratford on Avon, Shakespeare country! Bill Neall: antibiotics showing up in ground water Craig: The FDA just said last week they are thinking of stopping antibiotics in animal feed...or acknowlidged that there is a problem Paul Campbell: I don,t know about Gary's site but we are getting loads of email requests for all things macro, I think mb is alive and well but not in the same place as it was 10 - 15 years ago. Craig: there seems to be a growing number of vegans in the US though, whether or not they are macro yet I dont know Bill Neall: They'r onlly doing that because of public pressure...they've known about it for years...and how about the amount of antibiotics going through humans about it for years...and how about the amount of antibiotics going through humans Paul Campbell: I think the internet will see a big change jonsandifer: Paul, I think MB is still very much alive but doesn't have a high profile Bill Neall: Craig...what happens if we loose our food supply Craig: People like Dr; McDougal made understanding vegatarianism easier than it was for many Bill Neall: Jon...I tend to agree emily Millard: /well, I just wanted to say that when I was travelling I thought London had some great health food shops, and I was especially relieved that they were selling at least some organics in the grocery stores. That was several years ago, and at least american grocery stores are catching up. Craig: I dont know, I wish I could just grow my own Bill Neall: Jon...we need to change it to improve it Craig: yes US stores are catchin up, now if we could just get a standard organic certification things would be better Paul Campbell: Jon how are you finding the chat ? is it difficult? Bill Neall: Paul...vegetarianism is not exactly macrobiotics jonsandifer: Emily, one of London's largerst shops , Freshlands , has just opened a new branch and it's connected with Wild Oats as a group Bill Neall: Paul...why shoul it be difficult...outside of typing Bill Neall: Sorry Paul, that vegetarian thing was directed for Craig Paul Campbell: Just trying to be a good host Bill Bonita:Jon, thank you, best of luck with you books etc. Perhaps i will meet some of you at the KI conference this summer or abroad in upcoming years. Ciao! Craig: I think Wild Oats is changing here to be more of a gourmet store than the health food store it used to be jonsandifer: Paul, as you know I can't type but my wonderful Croatian Renata is doing a fine job and we have only one argument so far and we don't know where the kids are Bill Neall: Whole Foods and Wild Oats are middle class supermarkets engaged in profit making Paul Campbell: gone out to mc donalds...lol emily Millard: That sounds like the Whole Foods market chains in the United States. They have similar sounding names. Bill Neall: Jon..the kids are probably having fun... jonsandifer: Bye, Bonita Bill Neall: emily...I'm talking about US... jonsandifer: Bill, when they are that quiet it's dengerous ! bonita:bye emily: oh, I see Bill Neall: Jon...dangerous for you, fun for them jonsandifer: Hi, Vicki Vicki: Hi jon.....I came in a bit late...sorry... emily Millard: hi vicki Paul Campbell: ::Can I just say to everyone that Jon very kindly did an interview with mbuk on real audio at http://www.cyberpaint.com/macrobiotics/mbradio.htm Vicki: Hi everyone.. Bill Neall: Jon...I really appreciate you showing up...again, please join us on our cybermacro forums in the US...maybe it will lure others here Paul Campbell: Hi Craig: is there a chat here every Sunday at this time or does it vary Paul Campbell: Every Sunday Craig Craig: ok, I will tell others Bill Neall: Jon...As my friend Kaare Bursell says, we need to get beyond the first sentence and into the second one regarding mb Paul Campbell: I think there will be another time arranged also jonsandifer: Bill, I certainlly will and I appreciate Paul's enthusiasm and youe encouragement Bill Neall: The first sentence has been gone over and said many times...not much more to do with that...onward...thanks Bill Neall: Jon...on the forums we can hash things out in detail jonsandifer: Bill, Kaare , like me , is also from Kenya- please say Jambo to him! Bill Neall: Jon...Kaare was going to be here, but I think he has a consultation this morning...he said to say Hi to you Paul Campbell: Jon are you still in touch with Michio? Bill Neall: Paul...good question jonsandifer: Bill, please do say Hi to Kaare and send him my salaams ! Bill Neall: Yes, and what does Michio have to say that's up to date? jonsandifer: Paul, I do write and keep him up to date with my books but I don't get any response. However , when I directed the KI ( 1981-1988) it was much the same! Bill Neall: Jon...some things never change...is that possible... Paul Campbell: what do you think he is thinking now? Bill Neall: Paul...where to go to have a cup of coffee and a cigarette Paul Campbell: of his baby 'macrobiotics'? emily: everything is up to date, and nothing is up to date Bill Neall: emily...that's the point...and always will be the same! emily millard: Ihave to go. Nice talking to you folks. mind you ps and qs. jonsandifer: Bill, last time I saw him at the Conference 1997 he ran us all off our feet still with his teaching schedule Paul Campbell: Bye Emily Craig: bye emily jonsandifer: Bye, Emily Bill Neall: Jon...what is he teaching? Paul Campbell: Hi Dunc Bill Neall: hello Duncan Duncan Hulin: hi Paul Campbell: You were quiet before Duncan Bill Neall: Gary...are you guys having private conversation about the forum? jonsandifer: Bill, It was the same lecture that I'd heard before - even the jokes - but it's his ki that was still amazing Duncan Hulin: been feeding the kids Paul Campbell: Did you not have a wife to type for you like Jon? jonsandifer: HI, Duncan Paul Campbell: Only joking Jen.. Duncan Hulin: hi john Duncan Hulin: jens not here Paul Campbell: Jon You remember Duncan?? Paul Campbell: Bill Duncan runs the Devon School of Yoga jonsandifer: The Yoga man Paul Campbell: Hi Sharon jonsandifer: I think it is to do with the man's vision- keep going! Paul Campbell: 9 star Ki Paul Campbell: He must be a five soil eh Jon Bill Neall: Gary...I was missing you...right, Paull Paul Campbell: Supporting Bill Neall: Jon...what are you? Paul Campbell: what are you Bill? Sharon: Is this the chat for macrobiotics? What experiences have you had on it? Bill Neall: Paul...I think soil 8 or soil 2...one is Kaare and the other me...I get them mixed up jonsandifer: I was born in 1953 --2.1.6. Paul Campbell: what date of birth? Paul Campbell: Bill Gary: Hi Bill, I have the glorious task of cutting and pasting each line you write. Bill Neall: Jon...keep going where? Bill Neall: Paul 8/4/44 Craig: there must be a better way Gary, such as a capture program Paul Campbell: Do you guys put the month first? Bill Neall: Paul...sorry, yes, of course...the other way is backwards Gary: Craig, the chatroom does not have a log function, it would be nice though Paul Campbell: Hey Gary cut and paste thisytwehkjnjkdcuihroiljkglkrejglijijojglkrvk lfjkghirljgoierjpgoijpeoirjgijregijlkjflkjglierjgiejrigojoleirjglirejglikjlkgrjvruihvio
Paul Campbell: I am also 1953 252 Duncan Hulin: hi lori from adele jonsandifer: Bill,its like his dream of one peaceful world, bigger thabnan him,he keeps repeating it Gary: For that I will make sure your name is mispelled in the saved chat. Bill Neall: Gary...Paul's kids are learning to type Paul Campbell: Lori says Hi Adele Bill Neall: Jon...is repetition change? Paul Campbell: Lori and Adele are our teenage daughters Bill Neall: Jon..or maybe can repetition change? Paul Campbell: Ha Ha jonsandifer: Bill,absolutelly not Bill Neall: Paul...is that 25 of Feb 1953 Paul Campbell: 9th August 1953 Bill Neall: Jon...I've had this discussion before...Ideally, each repetition has to have some sort of change...but where it goes is questionable...in Michio's case he would do better to get back to the bottom jonsandifer: Paul,i,ve lost my trusty fingers Paul Campbell: my three numbers are 2 5 2 Paul Campbell: Ok Jon Bill Neall: In my opinion...and I aknowledge his contributions to mb and am grateful for them Paul Campbell: Just say if you want to go Jon Paul Campbell: You have been very generous with your time Bill Neall: Jon...however, that mb is a cure was an error and needs to be corrected... jonsandifer: Bill,I really believe it is hard for Michio to let go and let the next generation run with it Bill Neall: Jon...also power and control has some corrupting affect on all of us...we need to get past that as well Bill Neall: Jon...my hope is that I will have the opportunity to spend some time with Michio at some point to discuss this...maybe it's to much of a dream... jonsandifer: Paul, my fingers cant keep up with my brainyet! Paul Campbell: You are doing very well....... Bill Neall: Jon...forum is better for the finger brain relationship jonsandifer: Bill,i believe you Paul Campbell: Does any one else have any questions of a simpler nature? Paul Campbell: before Jon does a runner? Paul Campbell: Vicki? Duncan? Bill Neall: Jon...you probably would be stretched if this was a in a gathering format with questions being fired at you jonsandifer: paul,if they are yes/no Paul Campbell: Ha Vicki: um, well, I feel like I missed most of the chat....did you guys do any 9 star ki chat? Bill Neall: Jon...are you practicing macrobiotics Vicki: or feng shui chat? Gary: Vicki, I am saving the chat and will post it with Jon's permission jonsandifer: icki,no jonsandifer: ill, yes,liberally Vicki: oh ok...jon, you mean ya'll didn't really get into the 9 star ki stuff? jonsandifer: icki,not really Vicki: I see....where's your "v"? Bill Neall: Jon..thanks...don't forget to check us out at www.cybermacro.com/forum1/index.cgi Paul Campbell: I see the 'V' is missing on your keyboard Jon..lol Gary: Your computer must be getting a bit tired from the chat jonsandifer: paul i think its missing on my fingers Bill Neall: Jon is using a shorter form and therefor quicker... Paul Campbell: ha ha Vicki: well, if I ever meet you in person, I will be sure and introduce myself as icki...:) Bill Neall: We should all probaly learn stenography jonsandifer: Bill, more yang style Paul Campbell: Ok why don't we rap it up , youve been great Jon thanks for doing this Bill Neall: Jon...good thing it's not a more yin sssstttttyyyyllllleeee jonsandifer: All, thank you,too Gary: Thanks so much for doing the chat Jon, you have helped to increase our chat room traffic. jonsandifer: Thanks Bill Gary: Let's hope more people start to participate. jonsandifer: hank you aul Vicki: thanks , jon.. Bill Neall: You're welcome on Paul Campbell: I think we might need to do a beginners room, what do you think? Bill Neall: Yes maybe...I am for it.... Gary: I agree Paul, we need to discover what the interent community needs most. Gary: I am willing to experiment to see what works jonsandifer: Vicki,bye,ive found the V kek
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